Although I DID become a servant of the Omnissiah. Disgusted by the weaknesses of the flesh.
can haz instead with anarchy?
I think we need an “anything that is not capitalism” flag at this point.
Reminds me of the capitalism logo
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beautiful, just beautiful. a little more to the right… yeah that’s it
I gotchu fam.
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Feudalism moment.
This is the most accurate for our future, so
https://crazypeople.online/post/13549061
original post.
Why am I cross-posting .ml content?
I cross-post from .ml to the nearest relevant non-.ml comm to reduce the influence of .ml comms and indirectly, the instance as a whole, to make it an easier decision for other instance admins to defederate because one key reason I identified that admins don’t want to defederate is because .ml still has some very large comms and some niche comms.
Some highlights from the link:
"Don’t worry guys, the Uyghur Genocide was REALLY just birth control! ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/30580167
“See! nobody died IN Tiananmen Square, just AROUND it, so it doesn’t count!!” ~ Davel, .ml admin https://lemmy.world/post/30673342
.ml admin, Nutomics continued transphobia https://lemmy.world/post/29222558 The original transphobic Comment from Nutomic: https://lemmy.world/post/18236068
“NK is actually good and anything counter to that is Western propaganda!” ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/31595035
General negative sentiment to other instances who haven’t “seen the way” yet ~davel, .ml admin https://lemmy.world/post/27426510
“If you don’t support Russia then you just don’t understand geopolitics” ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/27352415
And so so much documentation on clear heavy handed censorship and bias also on the link. So much I can’t even put them all here because this comment would be really long.
I believe the behavior of its admins (the main admins are Lemmy devs) does harm to the overall growth of the Lemmy-verse and maybe even the Thrediverse (since Lemmy kinda kicked off the Thrediverse) because of its association with the devs of Lemmy and their insistence to use .ml as their personal political platform to spread harmful propaganda
On the outside, bringing up Lemmy frequently leads to comments like “Lemmy? Isn’t that the place with a bunch of tankies?” Or “Tried Lemmy, but found it full of pro Russia crap so I left”. The best way forward from that I see is to either widely defederate from .ml like the rest of the Triad, or pressure them to put a fair and unbiased as possible admin team.
You’re still doing the uhigur genocide thing? I’m literally in Xinjiang right now, and have also partied with Uhigurs in Kazakhstan.
This is some “Portland is a warzone!”-tier willful ignorance.
Wait so if the Lemmy devs are transphobic… Should there not be a fork at this rate? Also, I’ve heard a lot of shit talked about .ml and seemingly for good reason but what’s the story with all this? How did it get this bad?
Forks for ideological reasons will almost always fail if the issue isn’t with the code.
The lemmy devs bad opinions have not made it into lemmy itself.
Should there not be a fork at this rate?
Piefed has a list of words they deem naughty built into the system. Fuck that bullshit. I’m an adult, I don’t need some random nanny deciding what is and is not acceptable language for me.
Which word in particular are you inconvenienced by not being able to use?
Any and all. When I limit my language it is because I have chosen the words to restrict, not because somebody else has.
I don’t know what your goose image is supposed to suggest, but as an adult I don’t need somebody telling me “fuck” is a naughty word.
“Fuck” isn’t censored.
Which word is limiting your language?
It can be and is disabled by other instances.
I’m aware. But if people are going to criticize the Lemmy devs for their ideology which they don’t inject into the architecture of their software it seems fair to point out the ideology of the Piefed devs that they do inject into theirs, even if said ideology is less egregious. I don’t agree with the Lemmy devs on a lot of things, but I respect their ability to develop without such injections.
Also, the context here is automatic federation of communities - right? It’s not a keyword filter in the sense that you’re referring to.
So wait, is this another hub for Lemmy’s servers? How is this different then just accessing Lemmy through a third party app? Is this a totally different platform despite accessing the same servers? I’m a bit confused.
Not really - while it is part of the Fediverse, it is not Lemmy. In that sense it’s closer to mastodon or pixelfed than a different client, with the key difference being that since the structure/interface are so similar, they’re much more easily integrated with each other, so most likely have already interacted with a lost or comment from a Piefed user on a Lemmy community without even noticing :) Different Lemmy clients still connect you to the same servers and accounts, while Piefed’s are completely separate - although several Lemmy servers are running their own instance of Piefed too, on a different domain. So, you “access the same servers” in the sense of posts, comments, votes, and potentially server hardware, but not for your account and server software
I see, thank you!!
The good thing is, this is a federated service, and many instances are defederated from them if you want that. Also, they haven’t added anything to the code that’s bad, and it can be forked if they do.
Meanwhile, piefed, while it seems nice, has issues too. The language they’re using, while it is easy, so allows for easier contribution, isn’t as fast/powerful. They also hardcoded a block list for things like meme communities, and IIRC “NoMoreMuskSpam”, and things like that. This can be removed by admins, but by default they’re blocked. It’s pretty stupid.
They also hardcoded a block list for things like meme communities, and IIRC “NoMoreMuskSpam”, and things like that.
What the fuck?? Why??
No clue. It’s a pretty crazy thing to do. An minimum, it should have been in a separate file that’s made to be modified, but that’s not what it is for some reason.
Basically the ml owners are the lemmy mods who also own the grad instance.
They are terrible people and it got this far because lemmy was the alternative to reddit that wasn’t filled with racism, transphobes and incels, so people with good intentions stuck and cheered for lemmy to develop while they hosted their own instances with their own rules so at least they didn’t have to tolerate the lemmy devs, hexbear and their trolls too much.By this point there is kbin (or mbin? i keep forgetting) and piefed, there’s no need to support lemmy in anyway anymore, hence why there are more and more instances defederating from ml altough some still federate with them like dbzer0 (but they also federate with hexbear).
The next step should be hosts migrating to piefed or kbin and app devs dropping lemmy support, the first one is already happening in some instances, the later one not yet.I see… Yikes. I know nothing about those other projects and I’ll look them up, but are they forks of Lemmy handled by different people, or just front ends TO Lemmy? Apologies if I’m missing something obvious.
I think what you got mixed up is the software side and moderation. You can use the same software as .ml and have nothing to do with it. It’s called instance and there are many. This isn’t just front end. There are different front ends (apps, web, …) as well but that’s a different story.
You are on pawb.social as you most certainly already know. That’s hosted and handled by different people than .ml. It’s just the same software and the software isn’t the problem And since the software is free, no one profits from it. As an instance, it can choose to federate with .ml and even if (as my instance does, don’t know about yours), there is no guilt by association in my opinion. Being federated means you can see their content and they see yours but yours is moderated by your mods alone.
So they technically aren’t forks since the software is the same but they are still handled by different people because they are exact copies software side. I hope that makes it clearer.
It’s just the same software and the software isn’t the problem
I disagree, the devs and ml/grad hosts can decide which things to improve, mantain or force into the other instances, I think there were plans to hardcode the ml federation into it (saw it in a post that was removed for a different reason so I hope someone else kept the screenshot) because too many instances were defederating from them.
There’s also the devs keeping the blocking function half-assed so nobody can fully block ml/grad content.They claim donations for the Lemmy software are not used to help their hosting of ml or grad, but they have proven to lie and be malicious, so there’s no reason to believe them.
Also using their software is helping them stay sort of relevant to the fediverse and nobody wants assholes to be relevant.At any rate, there are already better alternatives that aren’t linked to propagandists, transphobes and history revitionists, so why not use something better?
Honestly I quite like this idea of filtered reposting of things from .ml, thank you for the explanation of your reasoning and service!
I appreciate your work
I think it creates needless duplicate data on every federated server, and fragments community discussion
Not all instances federate with .ml.
I know that, but we do, so this feels like unnecessary duplication
Piefed collapses duplicate posts together. We should ask our glorious Lemmy devs to add the same feature
I personally don’t need discussions on .ml and there seem to be more people who feel that way
Thanks I try my best lol
I feel like it presents leftists as being as smug and snobbish as reactionaries.
Tbh the design screams “edgy teenager that has never read theory”, it would be quite tempting to ask the person what was the last theory they read
That’s the perfect meme-based response. 😂 Yoink!
It’s literally just a shirt with a hammer and sickle, what the fuck do you mean it screams”never read theory”???
i find the push to read theory quite annoying tbf, it makes me feel like i need to pass a test to care about others. to be a leftist all you need is your own brain and empathy at the basis. yeah it’s good to suppliment that with sources but it’s really not that necessary, just be kind - everything else will come later
Sure but my point is less about the theory and more about the loud and obnoxious symbol on the back, if you’re just a good person and you silently support liberation than I consider that a good thing.
I’m not sure if supporting liberation silently is effective.
and why must everything be effective? can’t people just be kind?
it would be nice if we all got up and began fighting, but that won’t happen. and you can’t force people to fight when they don’t want to. everyone has their role though, be they silent or loud - if you’re kind, you’ll help out in one way or another
Building a mass movement doesn’t require you to jump up and start fighting or be kind, it requires you to join an organization that has a critique of capital and identify the local issues you can use to get other people on board.
Don’t get me wrong, kindness and human decency are traits everyone should practice, its just not moving the needle by itself.
even if you don’t plan on joining any organisations you do move the needle forward - if you bring up the topic of said organisation existing and speak of it in a good light others will look it up, and maybe join, maybe not - but the positive word will spread. and if many people see an organisation in a positive light, then it’s more likely they’ll join
nobody is useless, every kind person moves things forward, even if just a little, it’ll all add up to a lot
I’m not criticizing people who are quietly kind; I’m criticizing the idea that loud people should be quiet.
Yup, not everyone is gonna be a revolutionary. When the time comes many people roles will be to remain calm and be supportive.
You realize all the authors that wrote the books you’re referring to used this symbol right?
Oh, I love srsly wrong! I remember listening to this episode back when it came out and it’s great
I’m about 15 minutes in and just heard Nicole’s story. Great stuff! Thanks for sharing!
Oh, you’re one of those people. Like the losers who gatekeep hobbies by demanding that women prove they’re good enough at them.
Its not gatekeeping to say that there’s more to revolutionary thought than symbolism, additionally ideology is not the same as a hobby.
“Real revolutionary thought is criticizing symbols on the internet used by actual revolutionaries!”
Seems like maybe a new and different symbols will be a good idea. Considering that one was on the flag of a country that caved in on itself
Virtually every communist party uses it, and has since before the USSR existed.
And? The swastika wasn’t always a Nazi symbol. Now when people think of it they think Nazis. The hammer and sickle make people think USSR. Making people think of Stalin is not the way to go. A new symbol or simply not using that symbol would be a better choice.
Swastika means Nazis now, hammer and sickle means communism, not USSR, that is what comes up when you think about it, not when everyone thinks about it. what, just to accommodate you specifically every communist organization must change signs?
It was the symbol on their flag. More than just me. There are people outside of Lemmy, you know. People relate things when they see them associated over and over their whole lives. But even if only a smaller percentage associate it, I would still prefer a symbol that no one associates with mass murder.
so, everyone must change their sign usage to accommodate you because your ignorance must be protected?
grow up and find some real problems.
No, its called bad marketing. If as a group socialist and communist would like to promote their ideas then having the symbol they are using be associated with the worst of the worst is not good. That is why I would prefer for something else to be used. You’re welcome to disagree but you don’t need to be rude just because you don’t agree with what I’m saying.
it still sounds like what you associate, not normal people. you’re saying we should all conform with your ignorance? like, you can’t separate the logo of an ideology with states that were related to it? and your tearing the ussr like it was Nazi Germany. are you going to bring the 100 million deaths by communism? because that’s what you’re alluding to. many of those made up 100 million were straight up Nazis, so it’s a good things the Soviets (under the sickle and hammer) got rid of them. making the symbol even better.
get your head out of your ass and stop telling everyone how to organize.
if you want to, no one is stopping you from starting your own communist party with your ass as a flag instead of the hammer and sickle.
associated with the worst of the worst
This association is due to not challenging cold war propaganda over the last century and look where its gotten the American left.
Rejecting the symbol of communism because a project that transformed 250 million illiterate, starving peasants into a space-faring superpower with a quality of life comparable the west used it is the equivalent of prefacing every discussion of Palestine with rejecting Hamas and acknowledging a settler colonial state’s right to exist, every discussion of Venezuela with calling Maduro a dictator who should be sanctioned, every discussion of China with “ccp evil”.
You’ve already lost if you’re gonna go along with whatever horseshit your opposition says about you.
I feel dumb. I don’t understand what praxis means in this context. Even after reading the definition… someone send help
from my understanding praxis in leftie circles just means– practice, as opposed to theory. so doing stuff aligned with leftist thinking instead of just thinking
It is a little more. It is the Greek cognate for practice, but it is supposed to be a synthesis of practice and theory, where you use your understanding to inform real practice, and the knowledge and feedback gained from your practice in the world informs your theory and understanding.
Edit: I meant Greek and not Latin
To add to the other post, when someone says something “is praxis” it’s shorthand for good praxis, something that helps people and/or convinces others to be helpful.
