Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says he knows the same young voters who propelled him to office are frustrated, but that he will double down on the work he’s been doing.

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    11 months ago

    Time to pull out that electoral reform idea you’ve had in your back pocket for the last 8 years.

    Seriously, if there was ever a time for something like that, it’s now. The CPC seems poised to take a landslide victory in the next election. We might be able to avoid that looming disaster by making a vote against Trudeau not equate to a vote for polievre.

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      You assume they want electoral reform at all

      They don’t.

      They’d rather lose now and keep the system that would net them another majority of seats (without a majority of votes) in the future, then implement a system that would see them never realize another majority ever again.

      The Liberals would rather lose every seat in Parliament and be reduced to zero than implement real electoral reform.

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      11 months ago

      Would be a great time - especially knowing there’s a slim chance that he’ll win the next election. Instead of handing out country over to an insane christian bag of hot air, implement a voting system that might pass the vote over to somebody else.

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      11 months ago

      Nobody is ‘poised’ to do anything. The next election doesn’t need to happen until the back end of 2025. Thats more than enough time for the Liberals to do what they do best and convince everyone that, bad as they are, they’re the only safe choice.

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            11 months ago

            Some countries actually have politcal debates about the positives a leader will bring rather than the negatives the oposition will. Some countries have even had leaders step down when their policies left their politicians or citezens too divided.

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              True. Things have gotten worse, though. I remember being fairly shocked by the first Harper campaign, the depths they went to amplify anger towards the Liberal party. To be fair, the Liberals had it coming and needed to be replaced, but they needed to be replaced by the Tories, not the Reform party (which is what the Conservative party was and is)

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      I’m not convinced it’s a landslide. I don’t think PP is winning the female vote. He’s not winning the Toronto vote either, so this is already starting to get pretty murky. You can’t lose both and have a bonafide path to majority. So who is going to prop them up, the NDP?

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        11 months ago

        That’s a reasonable take, and I hope with all my heart it turns out that way. At the same time, I think it would be a mistake to underestimate the effectiveness of the “axe the tax” rhetoric. People are willing to overlook a lot of dubious political behaviour if they think it will make a them a couple of bucks.

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    11 months ago

    As a reminder, if you’re struggling with day to day things like housing, cost of living, education, healthcare access, etc., those would fall under your provincial leadership’s duties.

    Feds can assist provinces, but if your conservative provincial government is misspending, underspending, making side deals with their buddies, and forcing municipalities to make bad decisions, then change your provincial leadership vote.

    A lot of the “fuck Trudeau” people in Ontario, should really be angry at Ford (the guy they voted for twice…). 😵

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      11 months ago

      But but… what about muh “Fuck Turdeau” t-shirt. I just paid 60 CAD to the Ford reelection campaign for it!

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      That’s just it. I mean the Liberals aren’t really super appealing either. It would help if Trudeau wasn’t an elitist little turd. But oh my God the conservative option, it’s just not an option. Unless you are a low key white nationalist, god fearing, system destroyer who actively supports enriching people who aren’t of their social economic class.

      The irony is also not lost on me, that the most fervent supporters of these new Con hacks, are the very same people that have the most to lose all the social and economic support systems are ripped up. All to be transfered into some richy rich’s company in a single source contract deal that wasn’t put to tender. But I mean fuck that Trudeau, I’m going trucking!!

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      Most Ontarians didn’t bother voting in the last provincial election. Evidently most of them don’t actually care who runs their province or what the province’s role is.

      They could’ve elected Lesley Knope from Parks and Rec, or they could’ve elected an obscure Jim Henson Muppet, but instead they elected Peter Griffin. None were great choices but only one was an actual moron and that’s who they picked.

      Maybe some day the Liberals or NDP will field someone with enough personality to get Ontario to care enough to vote.

      Anyway, your post sent me off on a tangent, but if you couldn’t guess, I’m in complete agreement.

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      Canadians are being convinced that their problems are due to the Federal government rather than the Provincial governments where much of these issues fall and it’s going to get a lot of people fucked over very badly.

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    Twice nothing is still nothing.

    In seriousness, I’m very frustrated with the typical Liberal “we promise to consider to study the possibility of starting a commission to make recommendations” style of governance, all the while continuing don’t-rock-the-boat neoliberal policies that just further enrich the rich.

    What galls me is that, depending on how my riding is leaning, I’ll vote for the LPC candidate because the CPC is just as bad economically, and socially much worse.

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    “We’ve got a great team of amazing people who are putting forward the kinds of solutions that Canadians need, whether it’s on housing, whether it’s on paying for groceries, whether it’s on building strong careers for the future, fighting climate change, reconciliation,” Trudeau said.

    Have their ideas gotten any farther than an email or meeting? I haven’t seen any action. If that were my job I’d have been fired long before 8 years. I wouldn’t have the balls to ask for a 4 year extension.

    Housing? Immigration is set to increase the population orders of magnitude more than housing starts. Nothing has changed regarding corporate landlords scooping everything up. Most MPs have a lucrative side gig renting out homes at inflated, crippling rates.

    Grocery prices? What have we done? Invited Galen Weston to come to a committee and shrug? They’re still more expensive and in smaller packages.

    Strong careers? Salaries have come nowhere near increases caused by inflation. A small number of unions have negotiated something decent, but the government sure doesn’t get any credit for that.

    Climate change? The country is on fire annually and the last thing you did was buy Alberta a pipeline nobody can use. The time for action was 30 years ago. You were in power for the last 8 and did nothing.

    Reconciliation? You made a holiday for government workers and then went surfing.

    The only thing the Liberals have they can use is “we’re not the CPC”, which is often enough, but pretty flimsy when your track record of the last 8 years is part of the next election.