• GeriatricGambino@lemmy.worldEnglish
    221·
    7 days ago

    Between this and the video from inside the coffee shop showing the goon running away with the victim’s gun get startled and turn his head towards the shooter at the first shot, I don’t know how people imagined this was because of the accidental discharge of the goon who took the victim’s gun.

    And even if it were, the guy was on his knees, peppersprayed just seconds ago, getting hit in the face with a pepperspray can, with both arms restrained when he got shot in the back for fuck sake.

  • Jerb322@lemmy.worldEnglish
    18·
    7 days ago

    Is there video proving whether or not they gave immediate medical attention? They really seem to push that part, too. “Look we tried to help after we put 10 rounds into him.”

      • teft@piefed.socialEnglish
        2·
        6 days ago

        30 seconds usually isn’t enough time to bleed out. A carotid cut takes 2-20 minutes to kill you. 5-60 for femoral. Some deaths can be really quick from an arterial bleed but usually it’s minutes later that the person dies, not seconds.

        If they had started immediate rescue efforts with actual medical knowledge he might not have died but i don’t know where exactly he was shot.

        This is just from my experience with combat wounds. Most shootings aren’t instant death.

        • unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.deOPEnglish
          4·
          6 days ago

          I guess if they didnt hit any critical organs then maybe, but he stiffened up and flopped pretty hard after the second shot. Maybe spinal damage considering he was shot in the back?

          • teft@piefed.socialEnglish
            2·
            6 days ago

            Could be spinal/brain damage or a direct shot to the heart. Either of those would drop someone instantly. However without access to an autopsy report we won’t know.

            The stiffening happens with a good portion of shooting victims. Getting shot is a lot of kinetic energy being put into a body and that causes all sorts of bodily systems to misfire.

            Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying these fucks could have saved him just that you have longer than 30 seconds to live with most gunshot wounds. Especially if you’re given life saving aid rapidly.

    • GeriatricGambino@lemmy.worldEnglish
      7·
      7 days ago

      In the longer version of this video you can see ICE goons crouched over his body going through his pockets and ripping open his shirt. I read a statement from some ICE goon saying they gave him chest compression on site. Which obviously won’t do anything after magdumping into someone’s back.

  • unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.deOPEnglish
    15·
    7 days ago

    I thought the first shot was from someone else, but with that elbow kicking back at 0:15, im now pretty sure green/brown shirt also fired the first shot.