The screenshot shows the recommendations from https://join-lemmy.org/.

Still being federated with exploding-heads does not mean the instance supports them. But it means that shit-heads are allowed to take part in the discussions on their communities. They do intoxicate the discussions we will have. They will attack minorities. Maybe you will not be harassed by them, more vulnerable people will be. They are allowed to moderate communities on these instances. Exploding-heads members actively guide young and unknowing people to their hateful instance.

They try to start discussions about the holocaust https://sh.itjust.works/post/227268. They create communities only to crosspost exploding-heads content https://lemmy.world/c/pharma They take over discussions against them https://exploding-heads.com/comment/132189 “WHY are vulnerable people joining a decentralized system? Isnt this why you want a closed, not for public eyes community?”

This was a link to exploding-heads, because when someone copies a permalink of a comment from them on another instance, it will be a link to their instance.

Are we building a place where vulnerable people are welcome and safe or are we building a place where nazis are welcome and safe?

They want you to block them, they comment that everywhere. They block people who are in favor of defederating them https://sh.itjust.works/post/225714 When their opponents won’t see them anymore, they can harass and recruit without being noticed.

Blocking will not solve the problem. They will spread even when you close your eyes.

Maybe this was not done intentionally, but now there is a post with a list of ‘health communities on Lemmy’ with the first entry guiding to exploding heads. https://lemmy.world/post/396561

It is still possible that some of the mentioned instances do support them. The owner of sh.itjust.works says that because of “free speech” all other instances would be allowed. It is suspicious to me that his line is drawn only for lemmygrad https://sh.itjust.works/comment/130474

The decision to block the Lemmygrad instance was less a question of censorship, and more an issue of personal conviction. As a volunteer dedicating my personal resources and time to facilitating a space for users to create, discover, and discuss - not just on this instance, but across the Fediverse - I admit that this choice was made alone, selfishly, without the consent or thoroughly considering the collective opinion of the community. With the above said, sh.itjust.works has had the lemmygrad instance blocked from its first day.

I’d like to also point out that the lemmygrad instance has far more blocked instances than what is currently blocked here. Maybe you can create a post on that instance to see what that’s all about and report back?

At the same time they seem to ignore the call and vote to defederate with exploding-heads https://sh.itjust.works/post/433483.

They rejected to delete The_Donald from sh.itjust.works until they feared to get isolated from the other instances: https://lemmy.ml/post/1467310. They where aware of The_Donald and ignored early warnings. (https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/266248). TD was more important to them than keeping the only mod of their 4th biggest community c/patientgamers (https://sh.itjust.works/post/291747, https://sh.itjust.works/post/388922)

Since The_Donald was removed, I did not find more racist content on the mentioned servers. That is part their tactics. They act harmless but recruit to their instance, attract likeminded people and chase others away. Discussions on sh.itjust.works about such topics are very toxic already, soon they might be able to do more harm.

(My research is very limited, as i could not search for all exploding-heads member content on other instances by entering their domain. I know there are nice communities on sh.itjust.works.)

What can be done? On joinmastodon.org there is a Mastodon Server Covenant with very few useful rules, one of them is “Active moderation against racism, sexism, homophobia and transphobia”. https://joinmastodon.org/covenant It would be a first step to implement these rules for join-lemmy.org. At least instances that want to be recommended on there should have to agree to that rule.

More actions should be taken now. Please make suggestions. Things will only become more complicated. The next reddit wave is incoming.

For those who did not already know:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

https://www.upworthy.com/bartender-explains-why-he-swiftly-kicks-nazis-out-of-his-punk-bar-even-if-theyre-not-bothering-anyone

This is not the first time new platforms face these problems, do we really have to repeat the same mistakes?

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update: lemmy.word defederated eh

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    Come back down to the real world. People don’t want communism unless you force them into it under the barrel of a gun. Communism means my individual wants, needs, and property is decided by the will of the people, which in reality translates to the will of a few dozen elite Party members at the top of the scheme. I’m not an ant in a colony.

    As someone whose family has been massacred by Stalin’s repressions while every single possession was stolen, I’m going to go ahead and not join your cult. Thanks. I bet if it happened again, you’d be cheering in support.

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      im not a communist and my explaining how violence is not a literal part of the definition for communism as it is with fascism is not proselytism

      is that what you were doing? trying to get folks to join your cult of fascism?

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        🤦‍♂️

        Literally just explained and demonstrated with an example of how communism inevitably requires violence, and that literally every communist would agree, but you just plug your ears and go lalala. Ok buddy.

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            They just haven’t been prodded sufficiently to spill what they really want post-revolution and how exactly they would accomplish it. If kumbaya is their plan, well, it isn’t going to succeed.

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              If kumbaya is their plan, well, it isn’t going to succeed.

              it sure seems like this is less about communists believing that violence is necessary, and more about you believing violence is necessary

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                Look, it’s really simple.

                You can’t have communism unless everyone participates, and you can 100% guarantee not everyone will want to participate.

                Therefore, either they are forced to participate, or it doesn’t happen. There really isn’t another option.

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                  being forced to participate in society is called following the laws of the country youre in

                  am i correctly understanding that you believe that enforcing the law automatically necessitates killing people? thats a pretty scary thing to believe, and in no way indicative of any particular ideology im sure

                  its also false, considering the continued existence of countries that have abolished the death penalty entirely

                  on a side note, can you explain why you moved the goal posts from ‘communists want to kill everyone’ to ‘well maybe not all of them but the ones that dont will never succeed’ to ‘well having laws means killing people’

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                    am i correctly understanding that you believe that enforcing the law automatically necessitates killing people?

                    When the law declares that I have no freedom to choose what I do with my life, no freedom of movement and no private property, that isn’t a law I am going to ever accept. So it necessitates violence against me, obviously.

                    ‘communists want to kill everyone’

                    More like, “communists want to force their will upon everyone else which necessitates violence”

                    ‘well maybe not all of them but the ones that dont will never succeed’

                    Duh? Communism requires property appropriation. How exactly do you steal property without violence?

                    ‘well having laws means killing people’

                    That’s you, not me.