As the AI market continues to balloon, experts are warning that its VC-driven rise is eerily similar to that of the dot com bubble.

  • NounsAndWords@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Just a reminder that the dot com bubble was a problem for investors, not the underlying technology that continued to change the entire world.

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        Not that you’re wrong per-se but the dotcom bubble didn’t impact my life at all back in the day. It was on the news and that was it. I think this will be the same. A bunch of investors will lose their investments, maybe some adventurous pension plans will suffer a bit, but on the whole life will go on.

        The impact of AI itself will be much further reaching. We better force the companies that do survive to share the wealth otherwise we’re in for a tough time. But that won’t have anything to do with a bursting investment bubble.

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          Lots of everyday normal people lost their jobs due to the bubble. Saying it only impacted the already rich investors is wrong.

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            There really isn’t much that can harm rich people that won’t indirectly do splash damage on other people, just because their actions control so much of the economy that people depend on for survival.

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            Lots or some? I’d say “some”.

            edit: Really, though. How many people lost their jobs? Obviously, this being a techy space, anecdotes will lean towards people knowing someone personally. Tech people know other tech people.

            But in a country of 300 million, how many people was it? Was unemployment significantly moved by it? No, it was not, because for the most part the websites that failed did not employ very large numbers of people, and there were other jobs available in the field.

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            I don’t know about that. Not a single person I know or I’ve met has ever said they were affected by it in any way. In any state.

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              Well there are two of us right here in the comment section. I had a great job at a startup online retailer. They had a good business model, it was a great place to work.

              We had been beating our sales projections and were only a couple months away from being profitable when the Sept 11 attacks happened. Within two weeks, our VC funding stopped and we were all out of jobs because the company owners had to choose between paying rent and paying us. They chose to pay us all severance, bless them for that.

              Thankfully I was young, didn’t own a house, didn’t have kids. But a lot of my colleagues did.

              • WarmSoda@lemm.ee
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                Well there’s two of us in this thread saying otherwise.
                Checkmate

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                  Fully admits to being a literal child at the time. Still talking like they have something to contribute about the situation they fully admit to knowing nothing about. Gets snarky with the people who were actually impacted by it.

                  Fucking why do people like you feel the compulsive need to open their mouths about every god damned thing? Maybe your opinion, I dunno, isn’t relevant.

                  I would like to introduce you to a different possibility. It’s called keeping your mouth shut and listening. Crazy idea, I know, but it’s often followed by this thing called learning.

                  Give it a try sometime.

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                    1 year ago

                    When did I say I was a child at the time? Where are you coming up with this stuff?

                    So you’re angry and making things up for no reason? Nice, guy. Thumbs up.

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                    Huh interestingidea. You should try taking your meds and chilling out.

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                  1 year ago

                  So according to this thread, 50% of people got affected by the dotcom bubble, right?

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              Are you maybe too young to know people who were actually working at the time. Obviously the life of a high schooler wasn’t very affected.

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                Right. Everyone I know was obviously in highschool? I was long out of highschool lol

            • wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              I’d reason that has more to do with your circles than anything else.

              I entered college right around that time. I know multiple families who lost their home from it. My parents nearly did. My Grandparents attempt to downsize was delayed by almost five years of sitting with their house on the market and they ended up having to absolutely slash the sales price to sell their home.

              I know people who lost their jobs as primary breadwinner in their household and never were able to get back into the workforce in any significant capacity until just before the pandemic.

              I know many people who graduated college 2008-2012, had wonderful credentials/resumes, who weren’t able to find stable employment or a starter “career” job until 2017 or later.

              Hell, the 2008 crash was the big tipping point for the public idea that if you worked hard and did good in school, you could just expect things to work out well for your employment.

              There’s all sorts of shit you could use to pick apart these folks, blame what occurred on choices they made, and you wouldn’t be entirely off base for some of them. However, that doesnct change that despite your personal circles, it had a significant impact.

              We’re going anecdote v anecdote here. Your insistance of a lack of effect on people crumbles the moment anyone comes in and says they know people who were.

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              Have you considered accepting that you’re wrong on this? It’s not a personal disaster to realize that just because you didn’t personally see the impact, there was none. Instead of sticking to what you thought, you might learn insights. Perhaps they can be valuable when analyzing the current bubbles.

    • GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org
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      Yeah. Note how we’re having this conversation over the web. The bubble didn’t hurt the tech.

      This is something to worry about it you’re an investor or if you’re making big career decisions.

      If you have a managed investment account, like a 401(k), it might be worth taking a closer look at it. There’s no shortage of shysters in finance.