Other economic systems don’t incentivise companies to produce trash products that break quickly to keep the customer coming back, or to use non-recyclable materials because they cost 3 cents less.
Oh yes, they do. Corruption, unrealistic n-year plans and secrecy for example lead to defective products, poor quality and accidents. That’s exactly what happened in Chernobyl, and I don’t need to tell you how bad that was for the environment.
What happened at Chernobyl was the politicians refusing to listen to the scientists. They were performing an experiment that the designers of the plant told them was exceedingly dangerous, and blew up their reactor. At least they did it unintentionally, unlike the Army Corps of Engineers.
And why did “the politicians” refuse not to listen to “the scientists”? Part of the answer is definitely due to unrealistic n-year plans.
Also, there were other factors at play such as secrecy around the danger of graphite-tipped control rods. The Soviets had discovered this danger already, but had kept it secret even from their nuclear engineers.
Yes, no innovation has been done under any system but capitalism. /s Let’s forget about how totalitarian Russia was the first to space. Let’s forget about how much medicine was developed under the religious authoritarianism of ancient Arabia. Let’s forget about how much philosophy was conceived under feudalism.
Let’s totally forget that The Six Nations managed to maintain a cooperative collective of hundreds of thousands of people for at least 15,000-25,000 years with their environmental impact being quite literally the creation and tending of “The Garden of Eden.”
Recently read the Mars trilogy by Kim Stanley Robinson, and in those books an anti aging “vaccine” is made and shared freely for the citizens of Mars, but on Earth where the rich and powerful still control everything, its used as an incentive to come and work for the most powerful companies, or if you have the money then you can buy it.
I literally hope such a thing is never invented, imagine if the Musk’s, Trump’s, Bezos’, and Putin’s of the world lived for hundreds of years instead of finally fucking dying at 90-100 at most.
The article suggests the vaccine prevents the recurrence of a specific cancer by 44% vs conventional treatment alone. So let’s be pessimists and say it only prevents recurrence by 22%. Should we eat our words that still 1/5th of people who’d otherwise die or suffer horribly from a recurring cancer now don’t?
I think I would be more skeptical of the eventual price of this treatment and less about its effectiveness.
You know what this sounds like to me?
Like Moderna is gonna ask $10k a poke.
Edit: ITT: Pharma bros telling me how awesome artificially-inflated medication prices are.
Sure would be nice if capitalism didn’t exist 🤪
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Across a publicly funded network with technology originally paid for by the public.
Brought to you by Carl’s Jr.
Fuck you! I’m eating
Publicly funded? Sounds like commie shit to me.
/jk right? Right???
Capitalism is the only system that can make things dont you kno?
It wouldn’t exist at all if capitalism didn’t exist.
People would just get cancer and die like they used to.
Capitalism is the reason we (and you) have nice things.
Capitalism is why we have ruined the environment.
Other economic systems aren’t exactly protective of the environment either though, so I don’t really get your point.
Other economic systems don’t incentivise companies to produce trash products that break quickly to keep the customer coming back, or to use non-recyclable materials because they cost 3 cents less.
Oh yes, they do. Corruption, unrealistic n-year plans and secrecy for example lead to defective products, poor quality and accidents. That’s exactly what happened in Chernobyl, and I don’t need to tell you how bad that was for the environment.
What happened at Chernobyl was the politicians refusing to listen to the scientists. They were performing an experiment that the designers of the plant told them was exceedingly dangerous, and blew up their reactor. At least they did it unintentionally, unlike the Army Corps of Engineers.
And why did “the politicians” refuse not to listen to “the scientists”? Part of the answer is definitely due to unrealistic n-year plans.
Also, there were other factors at play such as secrecy around the danger of graphite-tipped control rods. The Soviets had discovered this danger already, but had kept it secret even from their nuclear engineers.
Capitalism is the only one really employed across the world.
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Yes, no innovation has been done under any system but capitalism. /s Let’s forget about how totalitarian Russia was the first to space. Let’s forget about how much medicine was developed under the religious authoritarianism of ancient Arabia. Let’s forget about how much philosophy was conceived under feudalism.
Let’s totally forget that The Six Nations managed to maintain a cooperative collective of hundreds of thousands of people for at least 15,000-25,000 years with their environmental impact being quite literally the creation and tending of “The Garden of Eden.”
What six nations?
Iroquois, Mohawk, Seneca, Ojibwe, and I forget the last two
What are they though? Are they indigenous groups in Australia or America?
North American. They controlled what we would call New England, as well as parts of Virginia, Pennsylvania, and Canada
arabic numbers bad.
or is it because edison couldnt claim this to be an american invention aswell? just because america is full of thieves doesnt mean they invented shit.
rockets…werner von braun
lightbulb…lumiere
computer …conrad zuse
internet…tim
i am sure americans have invented absolutely nothing and stolen absolutely everything.
biontech is german, pfizer are the murican scumbags.
tiktok&wechat… chinese
are you still on meta or drugs?
Capitalism is the reason third generation morons have multiple private jets.
Capitalism =/= money.
I’m sure leaving reddit was a good idea, but joining lemmy might not have been. People here are just delusional in their approach to reality.
It seems a lot of people came here because they’re too reddit for reddit.
Did you really think these new vaccine will be affordable? Those nice things are for the rich.
Recently read the Mars trilogy by Kim Stanley Robinson, and in those books an anti aging “vaccine” is made and shared freely for the citizens of Mars, but on Earth where the rich and powerful still control everything, its used as an incentive to come and work for the most powerful companies, or if you have the money then you can buy it.
I literally hope such a thing is never invented, imagine if the Musk’s, Trump’s, Bezos’, and Putin’s of the world lived for hundreds of years instead of finally fucking dying at 90-100 at most.
Terrifying.
That might actually be enough inequality that we might do something about it.
Look up Ted Faro’s story from Horizon Zero Dawn.
Science doesn’t need capitalism to exist. Technology doesn’t need to be for-profit to be developed.
Damn you weren’t kidding about the Pharma Bros. The fuckin Tankies are glad to not be the dumbasses in thread for once
Oh, what villains! Developing a cure for cancer and asking for ten thousand dollars for it!
In terms of cancer treatment, do you have any idea how small ten thousand dollars is?
When it’s inevitably going to be a lot less than that, will you eat your words?
As soon as you stop eating that pharma boot, homie.
The article suggests the vaccine prevents the recurrence of a specific cancer by 44% vs conventional treatment alone. So let’s be pessimists and say it only prevents recurrence by 22%. Should we eat our words that still 1/5th of people who’d otherwise die or suffer horribly from a recurring cancer now don’t?
I think I would be more skeptical of the eventual price of this treatment and less about its effectiveness.
If it cost ten thousand dollars I’d throw an enormous party. That’s already a very small price for a cancer treatment.