and is that a good thing or bad?
Yes but only very slowly, i think the vast majority of those who were ever going to move did so already. What remains are people who just didn’t know lemmy exists or who are generally slow to change.
Honestly I don’t think so. I want the fediverse to grow, but the vibe here can be exhausting sometimes. Whenever I say I can’t use Linux because I’m blind I get a bunch of downvotes. Whenever I say I’d love to talk about cats or vintage computers without someone bringing up Trumpa-Lumpa in the comments I get shouted down as well. I can’t imagine Joe Social Media User wanting to be around people like that. I could say a ton more but I’ve rehashed it elsewhere.
And that’s not getting into the (comparatively) high friction nature of first choosing an instance to sign up to. Heck, I didn’t understand how the fediverse worked for a while, and I’m in IT. The world is full of people who don’t have that background that will find the very concept impenetrable.
+1
Rage-bait drowning niche communities is poison to the Fediverse (and the graveyard of alternatives before it).
Also, information hygiene here is terrible. No mods seem to care.
And I just saw someone thinking Lemmy has an “algorithm,” asking why it hasn’t “figured out” to deprioritize furry posts from their scrolling feed yet. I bet they’re in the 99th percentile of the population in tech fluency, yet the way Lemmy works is completely alien to them.
Also, information hygiene here is terrible. No mods seem to care.
I think a combo of better moderation and a larger and more diverse user base is what Lemmy needs to succeed. The former is hard to achieve because you have to straddle the line between too lax and too strict, and everyone’s going to have a different idea where that line is. I get the feeling people just copy-pasted all the popular subreddits without enforcing the rules that gave each sub its identity. Askreddit was about open-ended questions meant to elicit discussion or shared experiences. Nostupidquestions was about seeking information. Showerthoughts was about quick realizations or observations. Mildlyinteresting was about odd little coincidences or anomalies you run into going about your day. But here on Lemmy there’s no quality control so they’re all filled with varying degrees of ragebait.
Growing the user base is even harder because the “politics is everything” folks repel any normal human being who just wants to talk about Pokemon.
I don’t want them to. Reddit refugees have already long trashed Lemmy and they’ve been working around trashing other parts of the fediverse, proving that Reddit doesn’t exist for any good purpose.
I think I’m sorry.
Of all the reddit replacements, Lemmy has the most staying power because of its federated nature. It’s not dependent on a single source of administration or funding. Voat, for example, went to shit because it ended up full of Nazis that got ran off of reddit and then they ran out of money. While this same fate could potentially befall any individual Lemmy instance, the platform as a whole can react and continue.
The Facebook population won’t, but all the cool people who made 2014esque Reddit good will or already has. Lemmy will never be the front page of the internet.
Meatwagon is right. The content is where the creators are, and they’ve all left Reddit; myself included.
Yes, I think it will grow organically, and often in bursts when Reddit does something particularly publicly stupid or frustrating. We’ve seen this before, we’ll see it again. I don’t know if we’ll ever see a mass exodus. I don’t know if this will ever “replace” Reddit per se. Obviously it has for me, but on a whole, I think it will continue to be a niche community, and I’m fine with that. There are good people here, my kind of people, and I like it for what it is, not for what it could become. I really don’t need the tiktok-memelord-masses and the teenagers and the onlyfans trolls in my life. I think they’ll find their own places to congregate and feed off each other, and I don’t think it will ever be here, no matter how shitty reddit and tiktok and whatever other dumb apps they use become.
I don’t want the Fediverse to be massively exclusive but it doesn’t need to be massively inclusive either. Its nature means it can be inclusive, and I welcome any community who really feels like they belong here. But I’m realistic about who is actually going to feel included here, and I don’t think we need to go out of our way to “attract” more users, we just need to do enough that the people who want this sort of thing, can find it.
I’d go back to the actually good reddit days, oh wait were there right now on lemmy
I find the quality of discussion sadly lower than Reddit. Back therrthere you often got really thoughtful and interesting responses to posts, and indeed they were frequently more interesting than the posts themselves. Here, the quality is really poor, in general
Imma have to disagree on that one, I find discussion here on par with early reddit days. The good and the bad included. Although the internet in general has radicalised tenfold since those days.
Reddit actively removes posts mentioning lemmy. And google specifically pushes posts from reddit. It’s gonna be an uphill battle but slow and steady will win the race. the more valuable content that gets posted here the stronger lemmy gets. One thing hurting is a good native app for lemmy.
Nah. Lemmy/fediverse will evolve and then that will become the thing. Tech literacy is going down, so something either has to drive it back up, or people are gonna need a lazier solution.
I think it’ll remain niche, but it’ll slowly grow in popularity
It’s nice to have an option that isn’t one of the corporate overlords. I want it to be successful, but I also don’t want it to be mainstream, because that brings mainstream level problems too.
I actually don’t think they will, they’ll go for an alternative that has a big ass marketing budget and backed by a large corporation next.
Like they did to Teamspeak for like two weeks when Discord leaked private IDs
Lemmy can’t grow niche communities without significantly larger number of users.
Lots of users will not replace Reddit with Lemmy without access to the niche subreddits they’re active in.
Personally, I still use Reddit for niche communities that just aren’t present on Lemmy.
Although, if they ever shut down RedReader’s API access that would force my hand, as the official app is unusable IMO.
I use Narwhal 2 for now. $5 a month is a small price to pay for the largest aggregation of information outside of Wikipedia.
Once they force the proprietary app on me I’ll likely be out. It’s a bloated cartoonish app.
I like Lemmy a lot but like people are saying it needs more users. I try and post my own content to practice what I preach.
Some will, but if they haven’t left yet I don’t see why they would. We’ll continue to get stragglers that get banned from reddit.
There are dozens of us!
Dozens !
Bakers or regular dozen?
yes
I just did.
So far really enjoying.
Reddit i really changed… forcing the app
Welcome to Lemmy, glad you’re here!
Probably not materially faster than they leave - over the long run.
This first graph is mostly dominated by mastodon obviously we don’t know who did or did not use reddit previously, but its a general pattern. https://fediverse.observer/stats&months=96
Similar pattern in monthly active users for lemmy specifically. https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/stats&months=96
I don’t know about newer versions like pieface or whatever - but since the total fedi population is fairly stable any specific software is probably mostly shuffling the same people around.
Though maybe the dataset doesn’t crawl stats for newer ones, I don’t really know - but it feels pretty stable population with inflows and outflows more or less matching.
