• Beardwin@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    More? 22 brands released EVs last year alone. There are a LOT of options out there, with more to come. Apple would have been like, the 4,000th entrant in this market.

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      9 months ago

      And what the EV market needs is a Model T, reliable and affordable. Not all these luxury models that go 0-60 in 3 seconds.

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        9 months ago

        The Chevy Bolt is an EV that sells for less than $30,000 and gets 250 miles of range on a charge. The base model is even under $20,000 after the tax subsidy.

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            9 months ago

            Yes, after a 7-year run they are retooling the factory for electric trucks, while committing to bringing a second generation Bolt to market sometime in 2025. Who knows if they’ll pull it off, but the sub-$30k EV market is going to grow with or without Chevy/GM.

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        9 months ago

        There’s a tidal wave of “cheap and good enough” Chinese EVs starting to sweep the global market, fulfilling pretty much what you said. The new BYD Qin retails for $15,000.

        If the US puts up protectionist trade barriers, the US auto market will turn into an enclave of gas guzzling SUVs, totally divorced from the rest of the world.

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          9 months ago

          the US auto market will turn into an enclave of gas guzzling SUVs, totally divorced from the rest of the world

          Already is lol. Ford I believe sells one car in the USA now, the Mustang. But they still sell plenty of cars overseas, including things like the Focus ST Estate that we never got here.

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        9 months ago

        You are asking for a Prius Prime and/or RAV4 prime.

        Which are super reliable and selling like hotcakes for a reason.

        Push the ‘EV’ button and both Prius Prime and RAV4 prime will drive in electric only mode.

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          9 months ago

          $40k or $51k are actually pretty expensive for a car… i mean, all new cars are insanely expensive nowadays…

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            9 months ago

            Nearest Prius Prime SE 2024 to my house is $34,604.

            Top-hit from Carfax.com.


            I don’t think you’ll find Electric or PHEV at much lower than this in the USA. If you want a cheap daily driver, buy a Chevy Trax or something. ICE is way, way way cheaper still.

            But if you care about electrification, going north of $30k is expected.

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              9 months ago

              there’s a difference between caring about electric and having 30k…

              a lot of people just can’t afford that

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                9 months ago

                Well yeah. I don’t think EVs are for the mass consumer yet. They remain quite expensive and remain unreliable.

                Hybrids, like Toyota Corolla Hybrid, get 50+ mpg and are only $24k. If you can’t afford PHEV or EV, then drop down to the next tier. Hybrids exist for a reason and will have significant emissions saving / carbon emissions reduction compared to a normal car, by simply burning a fraction of the gasoline of a normal car.


                I also don’t believe that we can buy or consumer our way out of this problem. Your actual biggest way to minimize your emissions is to find a bus.

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                  9 months ago

                  yep, there’s just no way to build cars for everyone without completely destroying the planet…
                  we’ve already mostly destroyed it…

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      9 months ago

      But their Cars would Cost ten Times as much and still there would be someone cultists defending the price