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Each of these reads like an extremely horny and angry man yelling their basest desires at Pornhub’s search function.
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The way people are just throw up their hands at every new problematic issue with AI is not a good way of dealing with them, we don’t have to tolerate this stuff and now is the best time to deal with it and start creating rules and protections.
Exactly. In another thread on here recently someone said something that basically boiled down to “your protest against AI isn’t going to stop it. There’s too much corporate power behind it. So you might as well embrace it” and I just cannot get my head around that mentality.
Also, you can absolutely see the models who were used as references in some of the images generated by apps these days. Like that popular one right now that everyone is using to make idealized images of themselves. A few of my family and friends used it recently and you could clearly see in some of the pics the A-list celebs who were used as pose references, like Gal Godot, Scarlett Johansen, etc. It’s creepy as hell.
Creepy isn’t illegal. Never has been.
I never said it was. But like the person I was replying to said: we need to take a good hard look at what the hell these tools are doing and allowing and decide as a society if we’re going to tolerate it.
The real issue here is what things like deepfakes can do. It’s already starting, and it’s going to continue accelerating, generating mis- and disinformation: for private citizens, celebs, and politicians. While you might say “it’s creepy, but there’s nothing we can do about people deepfaking Nancy Pelosi’s face onto their spank material”, it’s extremely problematic when someone decides to make a video where Joe Biden admits to running a CP ring, or some right wing chud makes a video of Trump appearing to say something they all want to hear, and it leads to a civil war. That’s the real stakes here. How we react to what’s happening with regular folk and celebs is just the canary int he coal mine.
I don’t think just giving up and allowing porn deep fakes and stuff of people is really an acceptable answer here.
It’s the only sensible answer. Anything else would require an extreme violation of everybody’s privacy and the implementation of total surveillance. See France’s recent attempt at giving police full access to peoples phones, that’s the kind of stuff you end with when going down that route.
This AI is out there today, can be run on every half descent gaming PC and can generate new images in about 30sec. And it will only get better going forward. Images are as malleable as text now, you can accept that, or keep trying to fight windmills.
but sites absolutely can manage deepdakes
Of course they can, and most already do. But on the whole, that really doesn’t have much of an effect, anybody can make their own sites and you don’t even have to go deep down into the dark web for that. It’s the first link on Google when you search for it.
I worry that the cat is out of the bag on this. The tech for this stuff is out there, and you can run it on your home computer, so barring some sort of massive governmental overreach I don’t see a way to stop it.
They can’t even stop piracy and there’s the full weight of the US copyright industry behind it. How are they going to stop this tech?
The point isnt that its too late, its that the hype is overblown. Go to the website this article mentions and follow the instructions (explore, turn on nsfw, type name and nude) and you will VERY QUICKLY realize the technology is just shit.
You can see some resemblances and sometimes one close one, but like another poster said they just look like the same shitty fan fiction we’ve had since Photoshop came about.
Also, this could end porn blackmail when none can tell if its real or not. People will start judging the person who us supplying the material rather than the person in it.
If it ends porn blackmail, it also ends photographic evidence. I think that’s significantly worse.
And sure the tech is bad if you just type a name directly into a model, but if you take the time to refine it it gets pretty good, and it’s only going to get better over time. It’s time to start thinking about a future where this tech exists.
This doesn’t even feel like an article - more like one long advertisement. The second paragraph of the article launches into a review of the “Erect Horse Penis - Concept LoRA”
Which I had not heard of before, so it was even insightful.
Yeah i picked up quite a few tips for generating good AI porn in this article. Im still not sure if this was satire or not. it basically gives you step by step how to do this.
The tech isn’t there yet. There are so often distracting flaws around the hands/feet. The AI doesn’t really know what a human is, its just endlessly re-combining existing material.
As much as I loathe having to reveal this to you, the shapeliness of the hands should be semi-negligible to most people who would love to have an image created from the statement “I want to see Billie Eilish’s boobs”.
Agree that was a strange take. Can you usually tell it’s AI/fake? Yes. Is it still achieving the goal of the creator/user? Yes.
You underestimate how important the feet are to many.
I’m not into feet specifically, but when I ask for “Veronica Mars in a string bikini” I don’t want to get “Veronica Mars with unattached toes.” It’s distracting AF.
Doesn’t happen with real models, or even human-made hentai.
Doesn’t happen with real models
That actually happens quite a lot. Hollywood movie poster are especially full of it, as they rarely do specific photoshots for the poster and instead just copy&paste together whatever random images they can find. So you end up with stuff like the 300 poster where the sword doesn’t attach to the handle. Magazine covers adding an extra hand or leg isn’t all that uncommon either.
And that’s the expensive stuff, once you go into low-budget productions like self-published book covers, it’s all just crude stock image copy&paste at best.
I’d be surprised if in a year or two AI still struggles with hands and feet
Rob Leifield could barely draw hands/feet and managed a successful career as a comic book artist.
Just because the ai produces a model with Billie eilishes face and a naked body does not mean you’ve seen her nude for real.
Its the exact same as drawing a naked lady and then drawing Billie eilish’s face on it.
If that really gets you off and really violates her autonomy in some way I’d be interested to hear how. Its not currently illegal to draw real people in fictional scenarios is it?
Key word is yet.
Yeah some body parts are a little weird today, but what about tomorrow, next week, next month, next year?
I really haven’t given this much attention but the last time I did maybe 6-8 months ago, most of the photos had hands that were stuff of nightmares. Looking at them again today at least from the quick 10 minutes of looking they have improve significantly. Yeah they are still far from perfect but a handful are very good, most are passable and a few are still nightmare fuel.
Just discovered 404media and am looking forward to how they perform in the space.
From a cursory scan, I did appreciate their deep dive and investigative approach in the article. I’ll be looking for their articles in the future.
Furry transformation and ass expansion, can you do that for me HAL69000?
Actually make him turn into a donkey girl before expanding dat butt, so we can make ass iokes
