• IWriteDaCode@programming.dev
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    1 year ago

    I will never be able to get behind a subscription-based terminal, with so much competition in the FOSS space for terminals, there’s just no reason to.

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      1 year ago

      That’s the one problem. An LLM enhanced terminal sounds great. Sharing every command with the cloud does not.

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    1 year ago

    I checked the about page and damn… It is a for profit company and quite a big team! It consists of 26 people (!) to build a terminal… It is probably going to be a subscription at some point… Not for me.

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      Damn, 26 people, let’s assume they get paid reasonably well, though they probably aren’t all developers. I’m going to assume 100K on average, just spit balling.

      That’s two and a half million dollars per year to build a terminal (very conservative estimate). And, like, does it reeeeealy do more then other terminals? Especially when you include different shells with plugins? AI, it’s so hot right now, but it is better than zsh or fish autocomplete? I built the simplest AI shell script to ask GPT-4 questions, easy, many FOSS options already out there, is that not good enough for people?

      Yeah, I’m just having trouble figuring out how this isn’t a waste of time and will implode when seed funding dries up.

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      1 year ago

      Top comment from HN discussion:

      Makes it a complete no-go for me

      iamdamian 9 days ago

      I check out Warp every 6 months or so, because I’d love to see more innovation with the terminal, and the screenshots look great. But the story’s the same every time: I download the app, fire it up, and am greeted by a mandatory ‘sign up’ screen and privacy policy, at which point I close and immediately delete the app.

      I will never be okay with a terminal that requires me to have a proprietary login to operate on my own local file system with local tooling.

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      1 year ago

      The rust language is designed to prevent entire classes of bugs which are common in other languages, so in theory rust code should be less buggy and more “correct” for the same amount of effort.

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          I’ve been trying to add features to the site by modifying lemmy and holy cow I completely forgot just how difficult Rust is, especially with hardly any documentation. It’s taking me hours to do something that would take 20 minutes in Kotlin or 5 in Ruby. You get a lot of safety but it does come at a cost.

          I’m still enjoying it though, but it is making my head spin.

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            Yeah its definitely a bit of a leap to start to grasp. I’ve been working with rust for a little but still consider myself a baby but damn is it a fun thing to invest into. So many layers and interesting ideas to learn

            What parts are you enjoying??

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              the part where if it compiles it will almost 100% of the time work. Of course, that’s not completely the case with some of the database stuff, but pretty much everything else works.

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                I feel like I also had the “if it compiles it works” experience with Golang as well, but holy cow is it a much simpler and easier to work with language. I want to like Rust, I really do, but even just the syntax is painful to look at lol.

                Also the cult-like community is a bit off putting…never seen anything quite like that for any language…

                It does seem to have some genuinely solid benefits though so maybe one day I’ll get into it.

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                  Yeah I tried Go and absolutely hated it. Way too many downsides to it as well. I am surprised it grew as a language at all.