Hexbear existed 2 years before everything else? Fucking wild. This loser’s account is literally 3 years younger than my hexbear account and 2.5 years younger than my Lemmy.ml one and he thinks we’re the late ones?

The only “ruining” I’m doing here is ruining his bullshit fuckoff attempt to associate lgbt and gender with being a corporate thing, it’s fucking nonsensical. Dude deserves to lose teeth.

Eat my ass loser.

If you think I would read this shit after that first sentence you’re a fucking idiot

This is an absolutely garbage take. “Anonymous” defaults to male in everyone’s mind because patriarchy is the basis of our society. Claiming everyone should just be “Anonymous” is a male supremacist and exclusionary of everything else position to take.

2million people were victims of american murderers. The americans like to forget that their foreign policy and behaviour of their military is basically identical to the IDF.

Has the fastfetch dev ever mentioned why they use the infinity symbol? Don’t want to find out later on that it’s a dogwhistle.

You deebster on reddit too?

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Chatgpt is just Cortana with better marketing. AI isn’t smart, it’s just algorithms producing a facsimile of language via pattern heatmaps. What was Cortana if not just an earlier version of the same thing?

““AI”” is all a techbro marketing bubble. Will burst and move on eventually.

Like holy shit we had the autofill feature in Photoshop ages and ages ago and that’s just doing what the “intelligent” image generators do. We didn’t call it AI back then. All marketing for what amounts to just some interesting algorithms.

Rebranded Cortana?

Destined to fail.

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You’re a transphobic clown that cares more about your Harry Potter treats than trans people. Stop pretending otherwise.

It’s not just an “ML position”, in fact it’s not an ML position at all and there is no ML party with that position. Your attempts to frame it as one are sus.

People are going to continue starting this shit. It’s up to hexbear to not make it end up…well, like this.

You. You’re the “people”. You are saying “I’m going to do this more”.

Really don’t be surprised when this completely derails into hostility and destroys any kind of positive relationship you attempted to build. Anyway I’m disengaging now. Please don’t call me back in here.

I think everyone looks fucking ridiculous. You, me, everyone. There is never and there has never been a single sectarian argument where everyone involved did not look like a clown.

Which is precisely why people should not even start that shit.

The right does split like the left. Hell, sometimes they’re straight up shooting each other.

Extremely rarely, although that is what is occurring in Spain right now.

Look, everyone has their own experiences. I know plenty of anarchists who won’t even go near MLs because of how extremely traitorous they are right now. You don’t come where I come from. You don’t know my experiences. Some anarchists mistrusts MLs with very good reasons and that’s fine. And it’s also fine to shitpost about it in an anarchist forum without having half of hexbear come in like a rampage of sealions.

The people for left-unity are going to feel attacked by anti-left-unity posting. This is just a fact.

When people feel attacked the result of that shouldn’t really be that surprising, should it? Especially when the spread of that rhetoric would actively harm hexbear. People are going to be protective of something they see as integral to the only space on the internet that they feel safe.

I think the problem here is that this “shitposting” comes off as… Completely anti collaboration?

That’s why it’s a problem. Maybe you’re in favour of collaboration. But do younger anarchists realise that? Does the general bulk of the numbers realise that? Or is this kind of posting actually working entirely against the left overall because it splits us? Because a significant portion of people genuinely take it to heart and believe it. How many spaces actively purge marxists now because of “aaaaaa tankies”? That’s occurring because of this kind of propaganda. Is it helping anyone? Fuck no it’s not. Look at every single lemmy community where we’ve been purged, are they better? They’re far right shit holes even if there’s a handful of people trying to change that, they’re utterly dominated by the worst people.

If the right split like the left does we’d be in power in half of europe.

No. There fundamentally is not.

This space is not “pretend” while the offline world is “real”. The people here are real people (I hope lmao) and the emotions people have here are real.

One day we will all be thrown into our own very real resistance. Are you willing to die for it? I am. I’ve said many times that I will die in bed an old lady in a currently non-existent socialist state or I will die in the fighting to bring it about.

We post here and have some fun and argue and do all sorts of shit in our off time. But in our on time? A lot of us are genuinely active in political orgs. Here in the UK it might be resisting landlord evictions through Acorn, performing party work or shutting down weapons factories through Palestine Action. Do you think sectarianism would benefit orgs like Palestine Action shutting down zionist weapons factories? Whose principle need is BODIES willing to get on rooftops and smash up these buildings and get arrested? Does reducing the pool of people that would join that org benefit them in any way by being sectarians? Does it matter whether someone on the roof of an israeli weapons factory waves a black flag or a red flag? Of course it doesn’t. And the people who try to flare up sectarian bullshit anywhere are rightfully shouted down or expelled because all they are functionally doing by punching left is weakening those orgs and their ability to do praxis.

That doesn’t change online. The number of people who actually transfer from the online space to offline organising is directly tied to the sectarian bullshit that occurs. There are dumbass marxists that refuse to take part at certain orgs because of some anarchist sectarian bullshit and there are dumbass anarchists that refuse to take part in some socialist led things because of sectarian bullshit.

If I saw anyone at the march in London this weekend say a single fucking word about sectarian shit I would have punched them in the face.

This shit hurts the left. There is no case for it benefiting the left in any way.

One day we will all be in an existential armed struggle ourselves. Really consider the priorities. There is no benefit to any of this shit, and in fact it risks harming support for Palestine. I assume you’re not anti-Palestine, even though you won’t state it. If you can support Palestinian resistance despite Hamas, you can support marxist-leninists despite sectarian disagreement, and you already are doing just that by supporting Palestine. Not to mention that almost every single fucking pro Palestine march currently happening is being organised by the “tankies” you’re currently railing against.

Oh and just in case - anyone that doesn’t support Palestine deserves a brick to the back of the head.

The vast majority of the people here found their way into the left through learning in the online posting grounds before eventually joining orgs. Anyone that thinks what we do online doesn’t matter is not really thinking straight.

You didn’t really answer the question though and it concerns me. Are you opposed to the Palestinian resistance currently fighting for freedom?

I honestly find this behaviour incredibly disrespectful to the people that are currently dying as they do real resistance. Are you opposed to the Palestinians too then? The leftist brigades of Palestine are all “tankies” and Hamas are considerably worse (but resistance is more important than broaching the issues with them). Do you wage sectarian bullshit against them too from your comfortable room while they fight and die for the cause? Serious question.

If your action is to punch left, your output is to move the current situation rightwards.

This goes for both anarchists and lemmygrad types, who equally harm the collective movement by punching left at one another.

If the marxist brigades, (Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP), Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine(DFLP), Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine – General Command (PFLP-GC)) in Palestine can prioritise the need for cooperation even with hamas in order to put up a resistance against oppression, we can all do the same when we have fewer reasons to fight.

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