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  • https://jewishcurrents.org/are-95-of-jews-really-zionists

    No matter which way you look at it, 80-90% of Americans that identify as Jewish are generally Zionist in some shape, way, or form.

    Substantial majorities of American Jews respond positively to these types of questions. Pew’s 2013 survey found that 69% of American Jews were somewhat (39%) or very (30%) emotionally attached to Israel, while 31% were not very (22%) or not at all (9%) attached. Eighty-seven percent of American Jews said that caring about Israel is either essential (43%) or at least important (44%) to what being Jewish means to them. (Elements that scored higher were remembering the Holocaust, at 97%, and leading an ethical and moral life, at 94%. Statistically tied with Israel were working for justice and equality in society, at 89%, and being intellectually curious, at 85%). In a similar question on AJC’s 2020 survey, 59% of American Jews reported that being connected to Israel was a very (29%) or somewhat (30%) important part of their Jewish identity.

    RECENTLY, some polls of American Jews have bucked the trend of focusing only on “emotional attachment” and have directly asked more politically laden questions about “pro-Israel” identification, starting with a survey commissioned by the Jewish Electorate Institute (JEI, an affiliate of the Jewish Democratic Council of America) in the fall of 2018. Conducted by the Mellman Group, a polling firm run by Mark Mellman (now also the CEO of the Democratic Majority for Israel PAC), the poll of 800 American Jewish voters asked respondents which of the following best described them: “Generally pro-Israel and supportive of the current Israeli government’s policies” (32%); “Generally pro-Israel but also critical of some of the current Israeli government’s policies” (35%); Generally pro-Israel but also critical of many of the current Israeli government’s policies” (24%); or “Generally not pro-Israel” (3%).

    In total, 92% of respondents chose one of the “generally pro-Israel” options. There was also a fifth option for a respondent having “no opinion,” which was not represented on the graph in the JEI’s report of the poll, but presumably numbers approximately 5%. The fact that the graph does not sum to 100% has led to mistakes when reporting on the poll, such as in a recent interview of Jewish Currents Editor-in-Chief Arielle Angel by JTA Opinion Editor Laura E. Adkins, in which Adkins claims that this poll reported that “97% of American Jews are pro-Israel.” Presumably Adkins arrived at that figure by subtracting the 3% “not pro-Israel” from 100%. (Mellman told Jewish Currents that the “no opinion” option was not presented in the results for the sake of “simplicity.”) Three later surveys commissioned by JEI, conducted by different polling firms, showed similar results, with 88% (2019), 91% (February 2020), and 88% (September 2020) of respondents choosing one of the “generally pro-Israel” options.

    In December 2019, a Ruderman Family Foundation poll, also conducted by the Mellman Group, asked this same question to a larger sample of American Jews. Ruderman called it “the most comprehensive survey of the Jewish community in the United States in recent years, and one of the largest ever.” (The sample size was 2,500 and the margin of error was 1.96%, compared to a 3,475 sample size and 3.0% margin of error in the highly regarded Pew poll.) Unlike the JEI poll, this poll sampled all American Jews, rather than Jewish voters specifically, and the results showed a significant difference in the percentage of respondents who chose a pro-Israel option. In the Ruderman poll, about 80% of the general sample of American Jews chose pro-Israel options as opposed to the average of about 90% over the three JEI surveys of American Jewish voters.

    The pro-Israel answers in the Ruderman poll included a relatively even split of those who were supportive (23%), critical of some (28%), and critical of many (29%) Israeli policies. Six percent were “generally not pro-Israel,” and 14% did not have a view. Mellman said that the differences in the sample of American Jewish voters versus American Jews more broadly likely accounts for this gap between the JEI results and Ruderman results: “As with all voters, Jewish voters skew a little bit older, a little bit better educated, and obviously, more politically interested than the average Jew.”


  • There is evidence that China was oppressive to Ughyurs, but currently enacting an active genocide is a stretch.

    If you want an overview of someone cutting through the bullshit: https://youtu.be/cz9ICFDk8Js

    TLDW:

    • Likely cultural genocide
    • Philosophies that would make Westerner’s mouth water - Forced assimilation / “Taming” the natives type shit
    • Western sources/“journalists” are dubious, twisting stories out of proportion or making shit up entirely
    • However there are plenty of testimonies from the Uyghurs themselves – the sheer volume of which cannot be ignored

    Anyways, from what I’ve heard, China’s dialed this shit back when they were first put on the spotlight. For whatever oppression China may have taken part of, it is not even a tenth of what the oppression the United States and other Western nations have been dishing out for the past few centuries.

    US genocided Natives to be born, and historically oppressed its own population (slavery, internment camps, etc) and has continually oppressed others (overthrowing democracies, genocide, crimes against humanity, etc)

    UK, Germany, France and other Western nations also love aiding genociders while also oppressing anti-genociders.

    France also has an obsession with trying to force Muslim women to undress in public, dictate how they dress. Lmao


  • Do you condemn Israel for its atrocities that span from 1948 to the present day?

    Do you condemn the founders of Israel that have committed atrocities from well before 1948?

    Do you condemn Zionists that have been perpetuating, justifying, or supporting Israel’s atrocities against humanity for the past 70+ years?

    Do you condemn Zionism?



  • I’m always happy to help educate a fellow goy!

    What is Zionism?

    In short, Zionism is just Nazism but replace Aryan with Jew.

    The more fleshed out answer is that Zionism is an ideology with its basis being Jewish racial supremacy. Just like with Nazi ideology and the Aryans, Zionist ideology believes in both the right and the entitlement to an ethnostate of a “special” or “chosen” people no matter the means, even if it comes at the deprivation of rights and injustice of other people.

    Why is this problematic?

    The problem is two-fold and can be found by observing history. During the founding of the current iteration of the Zionist project, known as Israel, the Jewish racial supremacists would rape, murder, and rob the indigenous people initially living on the land where the supremacists wanted to establish their ethnostate. Currently, Zionists will glorify, support, and perpetuate these actions to keep the ethnostate alive.

    Why do Zionists glorify, support, or partake in rape, murder, and thievery?

    First, Zionists believe racial Jews have the literal right commit such heinous actions against others, as Zionism holds racial Jews to be superior to others or as “God’s chosen people”. Second, even if these actions are deemed evil, Zionism justifies them as “necessary” evils, as they ensure the establishment and perpetuation of the Jewish ethnostate–something Zionism holds above all else.

    Summary

    A person who is a Zionist is a person who believes that racial Jews have the right to rape, murder, and rob others, whether due to their perceived privilege or to ensure the establishment and perpetuation of their ethnostate.

    I hope this answers your question!


  • The comments from the enlightened athiests are killing me, lmao.

    OP, from my understanding of Jewish religion, whether your dogma permisses the consumption of biscuits or not can be found by observing your stance on Zionism.

    If you’re Zionist, you’re already rebelling against Yahweh’s decree of Three Oath’s by either outright denial or by thinking you can outsmart Yahweh through some perceived technicality or loophole. If that’s the case, by all means, eat all the biscuits you desire; you’ll eventually find someway to convince yourself that you didn’t actually violate the decrees during Passover anyways.

    Now, if you’re not a Zionist, then you are actually following Yahweh and give proper respect and credence into the very spirit of Yahweh’s decrees. In that case, no, do not eat any biscuits. Just like Lent and Ramadan, Passover will eventually. . . pass over, and you will live to eat your beloved biscuits another day.