Nobody talked about banning them, once again. I don’t want to do that. I want it to leave the mainstream, for environmental reasons first and foremost.

The fuckup is, IDK, the false impression of productivity, and the 41% more bugs? That seems like a huge deal to me, even though I’d like to see this study being reproduced to draw real conclusions.

This, with strawberrries, Air Canada’s chatbots, the 3 Miles Island stuff, the delaying of Google’s carbon neutrality efforts, the cursed Google results telling you to add glue to your pizza, the distrust of the general public about anything with an AI label on it, to mention just a few examples… It’s starting to become a lot.

Even if you omit the ethical aspects of cooking the planet for a toy, the technology is wildly unsound. You seem to think it can get better, and I can respect that. But I’m very skeptical, and there’s a lot of people with the same opinion, even in tech.

I’m talking about people criticizing LLMs. I’m not a politician. But I’ve seen a few debates about LLMs on this platform, enough to know about the common complaints against ShitGPT. I’ve never seen anyone on this platform seriously arguing for a ban. We all know it’s stupid and that it will be ineffective, just like crackdowns on VPNs in authoritarian countries.

The reminder is the tech itself. It’s yet another tech pushed by techbros to save the world that fails to deliver and is costing the rest of the planet dearly in the form of ludicrous energy consumption.

And by activism, I mean stuff happening on Lemmy as well as outside (coworkers, friends, technical people at conferences/meetups). Like it or not, the consensus among techies in my big canadian city is that, while the tech sure is interesting, it’s regarded with a lot of mistrust.

You can take LLMs seriously if you’d like. But the proofs that the tech is unsound for software engineering keep piling up. I’m fine with your skepticism. But I think the future will look bleaker and bleaker as times goes by. Not a week goes by without its lot of AI fuckups being reported in the press. This article is one of many examples.

You can bury your head under the sand all you want. Meanwhile, the arguments proving the tech “flimsy af” will keep piling up.

We can’t do that, nobody’s saying we can. But this is an important reminder that the tech savior bros aren’t very different from the oil execs.

And constant activism might hopefully achieve the goal of pushing the tech out of the mainstream, with its friend crypto, along other things not to be taken seriously anymore like flying cars and the Hyperloop.

If it didn’t significantly contribute to the cooking of all lifeforms on planet Earth, most of us would not mind. We would still deride it because of its untrustworthiness. However, it’s not just useless: it’s also harmful. That’s the core of the beef I (and a lot of other folks) have against the tech.

Have you read the article? It’s a shared experience multiple people report, and the article even provide statistics.

Whether or not I’ve used Copilot is entirely irrelevant to the points I was making. Please remain on topic.

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Async is weird, and the generics salad stuff is clunky.

Just my gut feeling as well.

Dude. That’s Bambi 😬

Of course you know me better than myself.

I guess you wanted an answer but decided upfront you weren’t gonna like it no matter what? Not much I can do about that.

Carbon footprint. Techbro arrogance. Not sure what’s hard to understand about it.

At the end of the day, it’s a bit like a good editor setup. Sure, your crazy neovim skills might save you a minute or two here and there. But I’ve met excellent programmers that can code in anything, and be just as efficient as the Neovim nerds.

Programming is not just about writing code, you spend a lot of time thinking about it, which is a huge part of the work.

Oh sweet irony… I remember butting heads with techbros on this very platform about their misguided intuition that people criticizing LLMs are going to be left out (assuming I or others had never tried them).

Yeah, I write enough bugs on my own, I’ll pass on the 41% more, thank you very much.

Sure, I know this study needs to be replicated and should not be considered to be a holy truth… But the issues with the tech do pile up, and they’re not just ethical concerns about resource usage. There’s a new study like this one every week.

It is red, so it adds up 😆

It doesn’t have the position, but it has the color 🤣

You’re not even making sense anymore 🤣