HopeOfTheGunblade

Shouldn’t you be able to get it in in at least some states via ballot measures, from where you can use it to send better people to DC to implement it federally?

Yeah, I’ve been having this argument a lot lately, so the sarcasm shit right past me. It’s exhausting trying to get people to understand that no, really, genocide a * 3 plus additional genocide b is worse than genocide a alone.

I don’t think I said that. Can you show me where I did?

I will say that you have a slice of responsibility over the future, and you’ll have to live with the consequences of whatever decision you end up making - including the one where you sit on your hands. No matter what you do, you can still complain about it, but the future will be whichever one we collectively steer to. One of those possible futures is worse than the other. So it seems to me that we should steer away from it, rather than wrong our hands about how we don’t like the choices. Sure, you don’t like the choices. They’re the choices regardless. Model the outcomes of each possibility, decide which one you hate the least and steer towards it, because we are getting a future selected from among the possibilities. Jesus is not going to rapture us out of this.

Yes. Humans are given to certainty and judgement in excess of what the evidence merits, so I have taken to understatement.

I’m not convinced that Joe Biden is fascism, though. Would you be so kind as to compare him to Umberto eco’s list, and share examples on each point? Trump seems like a much better match to that, but perhaps I have missed something.

I mean, acknowledging that humans are never going to be fully informed or perfect calculators, the correct time is approximately when the expected outcome of action is better than the expected outcome of inaction, plus some finagle factor to account for bias.

Yes but see, if we just sit on our hands and don’t vote we won’t have any responsibility for what follows! Only voting for someone who is less than ideal on this issue is a morally bad choice!

These companies provided access to the required technologies free of charge, for humanitarian purposes.

They don’t own it, they don’t get paid for it.

“Big corps” aren’t involved here. It’s a philanthropy project, and from what I can find it’s not legally encumbered in any way like Monsanto stuff is. This is entirely Greenpeace doing something that gets headlines, instead of something actually good. Don’t forget that that organization, too, has motives, first among which is going to be survival and advancement of the organization.

If just grow carrots lol was adequate, tell me again why people are deficient in the nutrients golden rice has over baseline rice, please.

And you can prove that corruption claim? Because the red team has been busting their asses trying to find something, anything, and they have fuck-all. Waaaah he has a failson, that’s your knockdown argument?

Or did you mean trump, who keeps losing court cases because he’s a corrupt lying rapist with bad taste and hygiene?

Who’s making excuses? I just don’t care. What office is the president’s failson running for again?

That just gets you the candidate you want less from the ones provided.

Jokes on you, I don’t have testicles.

Usually he doesn’t pause during that spiel, so I don’t buy it being intentional. It’s normally FEAR FEAR FEAR patter the whole time.

I really, really hate that he’s still enough of a force in our politics that I feel the need to keep aware of him enough to know this.

Super weird how it’s made up but I watched video of the event.

Better hope nothing gets made up at the debates, Donny.

I would love to see research data pointing either way re #1, although it would be incredibly difficult to do so ethically, verging on impossible. For #2, people have extracted originals or near-originals of inputs to the algorithms. AI generated stuff - plagiarism machine generated stuff, runs the risk of effectively revictimizing people who were already abused to get said inputs.

It’s an ugly situation all around, and unfortunately I don’t know that much can be done about it beyond not demonizing people who have such drives, who have not offended, so that seeking therapy for the condition doesn’t screw them over. Ensuring that people are damned if they do and damned if they don’t seems to pretty reliably produce worse outcomes.

You’re missing 1.5: Make it impossible for people who every professional medical association of good repute says said medication help, get the medication by prescription.

I think that, so long as work is mandatory to basic survival, it will be degrading. When people have real options is when that changes.

I mean, it is a complex issue, and there are two sides of it. One of the sides is doing a genocide. The other side makes attacks when they can, killing much smaller numbers. If suddenly the power balance switched, I’m not convinced Hamas wouldn’t go for doing a genocide.

What actually matters here is that nobody should be doing genocides, both sides have reason to say, “they started it!”, and it’s not going to end until both sides can accept that yes, shit happened, bad things were intentionally done by people, and everyone needs to move on, or there will be another round, and another, and another, and another…

So you can’t do it, I can’t do it, nobody we know can do it. Maybe write Joe a letter or something?