I agree that it would be better if people used votes as a marker of quality, but strongly disagree on moderation action based on voting.

Personally, there’s three scenarios when I use downvotes w/o commenting:

• Someone has already voiced the reason

• I don’t have time/energy to comment

• The target is a censored echo-chamber that will ban anyone who disagrees (can’t vote/show disapproval if you’re banned) - example would be .ml communities having moments about how stalinist USSR did nothing wrong.

Anyway, once a post from a community rises sufficiently to pop up on all, it becomes a part of the larger discussion, and voting will shift towards the opinions of the larger fediverse. This is also usually when communities get discovered by more people. If a community doesn’t want the engagement of the wider user-base, a closed blog may be more suitable as a forum, or alternatively have an instance w/o downvoting.

When browsing all or new I do so both to break out of my bubble and to vote on content (usually stuff I find interesting).

Probably that it’s based on corn-waste. Most I’ve seen are sugar-cane based. US grows a lot more corn than sugar cane.

Whilst paper and canvas is biodegradable, plastic as a material has certain useful traits compared to paper and canvas, hence why making/developing similar biologically based and degradable materials helps reduce our reliance on it.

Examples of such traits: Liquid resistance, non-permeable to water, see-through.

Oh !worldnews@lemmy.ml does have moderation. The mods there are very deliberate in the things they do(n’t) allow. Woe betide you if you ever criticize certain historic (or current) authoritarian genocidal regimes.

Expectations of what is part of the discussion, not expectations of privacy.

As for doxxing, that’s a problem with all social media - but possibly worse on the “regular” ones (people having mobs attacking their houses, being arrested in countries with censorship laws etc.)

Minecraft for the fully breakable/buildable procedural open world.

Admins and moderators can already take care of these sorts of problems.

That’s because it’s supposed to be. I was on Reddit for a decade until their management shit the bed, and these kinds of problems weren’t a thing there despite the much larger userbase.

For the record, to me it’s less about privacy and more about setting expectations. I’m not anonymous online, I’m pseudonymous, I’ve had this handle for a long time. I am my online identity, and when I post and vote I don’t feel anonymous, even if I’m relatively protected from someone knocking on my door or messaging my boss about a statement.

If voting “ledgers” aren’t presented in the discussion, that’s because they aren’t intended to be part of the discussion. This reduces the value of influential individuals votes (ooh Bill Gates liked X, Kamala Harris disliked Y etc.) and shifts focus to how the community values of the content. It’s the same reason that we follow communities rather than individuals. We get an internet “hive mind” of sorts without cult of personality.

Votes already are presented to the end user in an aggregated fashion, as opposed to how it is on kbin/mbin. In any case, even in the current implementation manipulation is relatively easy, as an admin can just spin up extra accounts. The fediverse relies on trust.

I like the idea - if the lemmy devs do implement public voting I’d definitely move over. Not only does it maintain the (current) state of voter visibility, but it also protects from the frequently cited admin and kbin/mbin exploits. Trusting one admin is far easier than trusting every admin.

I was actually having similar thoughts after reading the post (forking lemmy) but idk if I have the time to run an instance.

We’ve already seen that kind of harrasment on major platforms including X and those owned by Meta.

This kind of sentiment is exactly why votes need to not be visible. As soon as the general expectation is that votes are public information free to be used and abused, it will be used and abused.

If we look at any of the big social media platforms with public votes, that has not prevented voting abuse through bots and the like. Rather it has served to fuel online harrassment campaigns and value of influential individuals votes (ooh Bill Gates liked X, Kamala Harris disliked Y etc.)

Aggregating votes rather than having individually visible votes serves the purpose of shifting focus to how the community values of the content. It’s the same reason that we follow communities rather than people.

What’s better is to edit every comment and keep your acc active so they can’t roll it back.

I asked through support whether they keep previous versions of edited comments and posts, which they claimed that they don’t.

How anyone thought it wouldn’t be harmful - boggles the mind.

Usually, for a hydro power plant to be effective they require a dam to be built. This significantly changes the surrounding landscape by flooding large areas of land and also reduces the ability of fish to travel through whichever waterway is dammed up.

Enviromental activists often decry and try to prevent these types of developments because of this - they consider these changes to ruin the local environment.

On the other hand, hydropower is possibly the most useful source of renewable electricity, having a large implicit storage capacity that can be released at any moment.

If your country doesn’t get winter and negative degrees, it’s probably fine - but please do keep your drivers out of our country.

It most certainly isn’t safe to be driving w/o proper winter tires (and in fact illegal) in real Scandinavian winter weather and it’s usually foreign registered vehicles causing trouble and accidents.

This is surprisingly often the case. At a short term scale, improvements in the local environment are at odds with improvements towards preventing climate change (hydropower is the poster child for this). Long term though, it’s almost always better to prioritize the large scale, as failing to limit climate change will ultimately make any efforts to protect local environments futile.

In towns/cities this sort of stuff is handled by the municipality here. Maybe you could send in a suggestion to your local council?

Also, in places where winter tires (not all season crap) aren’t the norm, or studded ones are outlawed (pure idiocy IMO) road vehicles are just as susceptible and the danger of not being able to stop. When considering that road vehicles include say a… 50ton cargo truck that becomes a high priority.

We actually had some issues this last winter - truckers from continental Europe (who don’t have proper tires) getting stuck and blocking one of our national highways (more than once) in the middle of snow-storms. In one case more than a thousand people were stuck in the ensuing chaos.

No salt bans in my area at least, but it’s only effective above a certain temperature (around -15°C iirc). On sidewalks/bike roads it’s usually gravel+salt and on roads only salt. An unfortunate side-effect of gravel is that it (a) needs to be swept up in the spring which adds cost and (b) poses a hazard to cyclists once the snow is gone.