Stop the dickriding

Still an infinitely better playmaker than Embiid and Maxey combined. Curry has like 3 APG this season. Doesn’t mean he’s not an all time playmaker. Just a symptom of horrible teammates

Simmons goes for fresh 18 year olds.

Harden below Wade only makes sense if you’re using careers and not peak. Harden below Gervin is inexcusable. Same thing with AI below top 5 SG. And no, Klay is not touching top 10 SG. His high scoring games have really made people think that he was better than Dray during the dynasty years.

Kobe

Bro we were gonna lose to the Rockets if it weren’t for refs and luck. And that was with a slightly worse version of harden. Sure the Clippers have worse synergy than that ungodly rockets team, but their talent is just too much. Kawhi as a second option/1b, Russ as a third option, and PG as the 4th best player is disgusting.

Wym by when it matters. The first 3 quarters factor into the scores. The 4th is 1 out of 4 quarters. How the hell does it matter more? If you get a lead early you don’t have to be “clutch”.

Trade Kawhi for KD so the Clippers get the all time Thunder

New jalen green just dropped

Yeah not even Luka is worthy of the next Harden title yet. Maxey becoming Booker would be great, but that’s still not good enough to win as a first option without extraordinary luck or a 1b player+other great teammates. If I were the Sixers FO, I would ride it out with Embiid for 2-4 more years.

Keep cooking. Players should be evaluated using how well they play, not how much success their team has. This is evident in how the regular season is often regarded as meaningless, when it has a far larger sample size than the playoffs and isn’t as heavily influenced by matchups. A lot of people here don’t watch games or care about technicalities so meaningless noise like game 7 stats, elimination game stats, clutch etc are viewed as more significant than multiple regular seasons’ worth of games.

I thought Giannis was underrated when people were saying that AD>Giannis and that he wasn’t top 10, but the glazing after his team won a ring due to injuries to the Nets was insane. Like this dude is the same player and he could’ve won in previous years if the 2 or 3 teams better than the Bucks were hurt too. Hell, he could’ve won series like the Heat in 2020 or the Raptors in 2019 if his team got hot enough like last year’s Heat team.

IMO it’s just people wanting to make every win ‘deserved’ instead of acknowledging the importance of luck. Just look at how generational talents like Harden and Barkley are disrespected despite being better than most FMVPs. Media/fan narratives also play a big part. Giannis and Jokic being the best of their generation doesn’t mean that they’re necessarily comparable to the best of previous generations or better than anyone who wasn’t the best in their own generation. No matter what they achieve, Steph is better, not because his team dominated the past few years, but because barring any massive leaps from Giannis or Jokic, Steph will have peaked much higher. If Steph retired after 2016 he would still be better and if he got injured and bounced in the first round every year he would still be better.

Steph better

He’s still bulkier than he was before the Lakers chip. His D is better now, but his scoring is considerably worse. Playing the 5 more and no longer being in his early 20s also means he has to be a lot more careful. He’s a top 15 player, but not the top 10 superstar AD we saw in NOLA and that first Lakers year

Literally nothing will change.Wemby is decent on the perimeter for his size, but any decent guard is absolutely cooking him if he’s ur best perimeter defender. There’s also no way 5 long dudes are able to cover anything close to everything inside the arc and in the modern game they won’t even get the chance to try unless they wanna give up a bunch of 3s. Additionally, defensive 3 seconds means layups are still 100% viable even if the other team ignores the perimeter.

They’re beating your team in 5 or 6

Bron>Kobe>KD>=Harden>>Giannis>=Jokic>>>>PG

Never cook again

2021 Nets wouldve rolled the league for years if they stayed healthy