You are correct. I don’t mean to really replace the search engine in it’s entirety, i’m really just talking about the modern search engine and how tragic seo is for smaller sites and variety.
Searx would be an example of a good search engine, or metager possibly and others like those. So that’s really where I am coming from.
I really mean, not getting rid of search engine services as they were originally intended to be used, but ultimately rather getting rid of as they are used against smaller sites today and preferring select sites.
Idk if Maps uses the same search engine as Google, if not while I agree maps uses a search engine, to search the info stored on it or that the user searches for, mostly what’s stored on maps, I think is stored on one server dedicated to maps or perhaps multiple servers being a Google. It’s not like it’s picking sites and services to get it from, it’s data they collected for sure but it’s all stored on that service as I understand it.
The Facebook bit was really to address the potential take over of the Fediverse which since it’s built to litterally protect users from just that, sure it won’t help everyone who is ignorant to how the Fediverse works, but if you do know how it works you can still free yourself and jump to another instance using the exact same familiar interface on whatever platform you are using on the fediverse, like Mastodon. Also newer platforms on the Fediverse will also show up with their own servers seperated from Mastodon or Lemmy so things will be refreshioned again and again when new Platforms arrive. Most of them being open source also means no one can really buy out Mastodon or Lemmy just like that it just doesn’t work like that.
Maybe Nvidia knows something we don’t. Are their any examples of using ai to help code? What is Nvidia specifically referencing to making them say this? I ask these questions because obviously something they are seeing is making them say this. yet, all I see from ai in general are things like.
Image generation, story generation, some ai can even roleplay a specific story with you that you inputed, but I just can’t see ai doing actual coding, without over simplifying it and making it boring and less different from the next ‘creation.’
I understand that Google has a lot of data to shift through, and that maybe the Fediverse probably can’t do everything it does. When a user tries to search for certain things on a search engine it’s like Google goes out of it’s way to hide a lot of it.
I guess what I am trying to say is the Fediverse is best for finding discussion, and up to date topics, and opinions from more voices instead of the few that gain the seo system. When it comes to local stuff, I would probably use Google maps or something like that just so I can say I don’t need a search engine for that, but that’s just me when it comes to local searches.
If one server were to get too big and do ads and all that, guess what, it’s not like with Youtube for example where that’s your only option you can just switch your instance and you won’t be censored you just won’t show up on that corrupted instance. The fact that the Fediverse is decentralized and federated absolutely will prevent this from being as bad as it was with the og old internet.
The reason Facebook took over was essentially the fact that it was it’s own platform, and you couldn’t communicate with your friends from that old forum site from Facebook.
When one or 5 servers get to a certain size I would assume some instances would block some of the largest instances, but would still be usable as it could still federate with other instances. The Fediverse designed to combat this type of thing, while the old internet, really had no way to combat this. Sure it thought well for people it just wasn’t built to give people enough power to avoid bigger sites from controlling and censoring the entirety of what is said online and still have success and activity.
While email was federated, it was also commercial in most used cases. Actually email itself hasn’t really had any big take over or monopoly and emails seem to send even to this day from smaller email services to larger email services. So this seems to prove that federation can prevent what you seem to be claiming if people make the right steps with the tools they have.
I understand that Google has a lot of data to shift through, and that maybe the Fediverse probably can’t do everything it does. When a user tries to search for certain things it’s like Google goes out of it’s way to hide it. I guess what I am trying to say is the Fediverse is best for finding discussion, and up to date topics, and opinions from more voices. When it comes to local stuff, I would probably use Google maps or something like that just so I can say I don’t need a search engine for that, but that’s just me when it comes to local searches.
If one server were to get too big and do ads and all that, guess what, it’s not like with Youtube for example where that’s your only option you can just switch your instance and you won’t be censored you just won’t show up on that corrupted instance. The fact that the Fediverse is decentralized and federated absolutely will prevent this from being as bad as it was with the og old internet.
The reason Facebook took over was essentially the fact that it was it’s own platform, and you couldn’t communicate with your friends from that old forum site.
When one or 5 servers get to a certain size I would assume some instance would bloc some of the largest instances, but would still be usable as other servers it could still federate with. The Fediverse designed to combat this, while the old internet, really had no plans to combat this. Sure it thought well for people it just wasn’t built to give people enough power to avoid bigger instances and still have success and activity.
By using say Mastodon, it is federated with other instances that focus on certian things and people posts about said things. You can search from Mastodon posts and even beyond Mastodon to other platforms that are using using Activity pub. and vice versa.
Because of this you will have more independent control rather than one company controlling the flow of everything. With Google everything goes by Google. With Duckduckgo everything goes by Bing and Duckduckgo. With Mastodon, whatever you see goes by various Mastodon server criteria.
Use Google maps, or something like that. You wouldn’t need a search engine for that or even the Fediverse.
I don’t know if that’s the best example since with an audio book you’re still getting the same reading material.
It’s more like, kids shouldn’t learn how to sing, they should just have ai sing with their voice for them. They’l never know the ins and outs of it, but they’l know what they want it to be like and describe it to the ai.
Leave coding to ai? What does this look like? How does this concept work? any examples?
Or does he mean just let ai handle everything and they don’t give the ai any input?? I am no programmer but this just doesn’t sound right to me. As a regular user.
That’s a price to pay to have a free internet.
If bots are an issue, and I believe it can be sometimes, you could try suggesting to Lemmy developers to invest into bot protection for the platform. Also, the instance maintainers themselves.
Like on Mastodon, I can search for information on Google, Duckduckgo and you’l see all the latest human input on these topics that’s available. Whether you search for hashtags or for posts specifically.
Or on Lemmy, you can search for posts or literally entire communities dedicated to what you are looking for.
When I say the Fediverse, I’m talking about as a whole, when you are searching for posts, and the like. The Fediverse will generally strive to actually show you everything that’s available. It’s a step from forward from what the modern search engine provides it’s users.
Do search engines have some advantages, sure, but are they hindered severely by seo, also yes. To the point that any advantages a Google search could have just isn’t worth it.
Maybe, care to elaborate your purposes.
Typically I might search for something specific like an answer to a question, and maybe or maybe not it shows up in a Google search. Or I might just search for a specific website which 9 times out of 10 it will show up.
The main problem I see with both Google and Duckduckgo is, Sometimes if I just search for information, some sites will show up and others just won’t. So because of this you may be missing out on helpful and relevant information that just isn’t seo friendly enough.
That is what we are missing. The Fediverse makes searching by keyword so simply easy, with it being decentralized, this feature will be preserved as long that people developing the Mastodon’s and the Lemmy’s keep supporting it. If they don’t you won’t ever actually lose that feature you would likely have to join another platform like Firefish, or Sharkey and search the Fediverse that way if something like this were to happen. This is why I still stand with the Fediverse being better for the longer term than Google as a search engine.
I’m not as worried about the decline of truth, but rather the decline of the open web. Google is favoring it’s search engine for a few. Sites such as Quara, Reddit, cnn always get top resualts. It’s never anyone else unless specifically searched for. If you don’t specifically search for them others never get heard on Google search.
My alternative is to deliver what people are actually saying on the search engine based off of what a user searches. Not just a handful of special outlets that know they are hand picked and take advantage of their position.
The difference is I can enjoy some popcorn, seo takes the enjoyment out of most of everything if not everything.
if more people used the Fediverse and inputed information overtime, it would get to that level and it would less likely just become another seo situation because it isn’t centralized. Even right now, on Lemmy you can find more specific things for anything that is available then Google would give you even if if was available to them to give if it doesn’t meet their seo standards.
Good point. While Search Engines do have their place and uses. My issue isn’t with the idea of the search engine itself but with seo deciding what resualts show up or will never show up regardless of the quality of the source. A lot of it goes against the open internet.
One thing Search engines are good for looking for stores like Aldi’s, or Best buy and seeing the type of stuff they sell before you shop there. But if you’re looking for anything opinionated, or from real people from *all backgrounds seach engines are becoming less and less of that as they use to be back in the 2008’s-2013’s
How does the use of ai tools specifically sell Nvidia hardware? it could help sell other hardware as well. They don’t specify any specific ai software that might be exclusive to Nvidia hardware or anything like that. That at the surface doesn’t make much sense to me.