Isn’t like half their defense on IR?

Genuinely crazy he isn’t in yet, he should be a shoo-in.

Just saw Tune was just a 2 point sneak nvm

Still have no idea how they sent McCoy back out there, even ignoring the awfulness with that concussion he was clearly so out of it he couldn’t really play.

(And yeah, I would not say the Ravens have been dirty this year either)

So I still don’t get why they started Tim Boyle and not Trevor Siemian.

I’m not saying Siemian is especially good. I am saying Trevor Siemian had 11 TDs in 2021 and Tim Boyle has had 15 touchdowns in 4 years of college and 5 years of the NFL combined.

It’s worth noting that at the time, they weren’t seen as a mediocre team per se. They had been one game from the Super Bowl 2 out of the last 3 years and a lot of people felt if their offense could just get together they might push over the edge. The defense fell down in 2011 but it seemed like a one year blip. So it felt more like the bottom falling out on a true “what if” team, since despite having guys like Mark Sanchez at QB they were one score from the Super Bowl. Rex Ryan was a hot commodity with a fiery personality who talked trash and beat Brady + Bill in the playoffs (which also made the butt fumble game some sweet revenge for some people). Stuff like that.

As someone who watched it, a big reason is because of the timing. The Patriots went from 7-0 to 28-0 within a span of a minute, got a touchdown early, Jets fumble right at the three yard line, two plays later Mark Sanchez runs into his own lineman’s ass and then the very next kickoff is another fumble that gets returned for a touchdown.

Sanchez had always gotten criticism (because he was Bad) but could shield it by saying he won in the playoffs. That game essentially signalled the end of an era of hope for the Jets with their strong defense as Sanchez became too much of a liability to actually win despite their amazing defense and then went on to only have one winning season and 0 playoff appearances since then.

Combine that with the fact that a player running into his own offensive lineman’s ass and fumbling is funny and you get something that both serves as a representation of a moment in time, when the Jets lost all hope, and as an inherently funny play.

Pretty sure every Bills fan had a heart attack on that Cooks fumble.

Some one score games are fun, down to the wire, you just don’t know how they’ll end.

Some low scoring games are tough defensive affairs, where great stops force the offense to fight for every inch.

This game was neither.

This season has been EXTREMELY injury hit as well. I keep saying it but IMO, it would just be short-sighted to completely bail on him when the last three years have been solid and he has a very long track record of success. In my mind, Mike Tomlin is the same: If Tomlin’s team just cratered next year, I’d give him the next QB after Kenny Pickett rather than can him instantly.

Shouting into the echo chamber but I feel like less irrelevant guests would do good work. The entire appeal of the ManningCast was that it was two dudes hanging out who also knew their shit about football. The more it gets away from that, the more it becomes just another broadcast.

It’s been less than one year. They need to calm the fuck down lol

QB is the most important position in football, but it’s overall importance is overstated. Many teams in the last decade or so have made deep runs or won Super Bowls with merely “good” QBs and they will continue to do so in the future. People act like QB is Everything or that nobody else can be the most valuable just because of the QB position and I disagree with that level.

Similarly, Cooper Kupp should have won MVP or at least been legitimately in the conversation in 2021. Stafford is IMO an underrated QB for most of his career, but in no way does he lead them to a Super Bowl without Kupp’s all-time great play. Kupp is why they beat the Brady Bucs to advance and he helped keep the team on track when Woods went down and OBJ was just okay during the regular season. People discount a season like this simply for not playing QB, but with and without Kupp was also a huge difference. Hell the year before they won their playoff game w/ Goff and Kupp, then lost the one he got injured for a very simplistic look. Barely even being considered is a joke.

I get this.

If Godwin had caught that Hail Mary I think all of Buffalo would be on suicide watch.