Well, no. Paying professors isn’t free. Some places just hide their salaries in their tax money. But sure. Everyone gets education (I agree with this). Some people choose to be artists and… I guess they just fend for themselves?
Now, let’s be absurd. Pretend I’M a artist. I made a blank canvas, and I’m willing to sell it.
Yes, I think I’ve already agreed to that fact. Which brings us back to: how should we pay for those people to be educated? Who should we choose to create things? What should we do with everybody else?
No, and I never said that I did. Do I think that people are motivated to be educated and create things by capitalism? Yes, of course. It’s provably happened on both of our lifetimes.
Does that make capitalism the best solution? No. But obviously you’re gonna need to provide more data against it to convince other people. This is a weak argument.
what does education have to do with inventing anything?
How will we educate those workers, in order to produce better things? I guess some “workers” will be smarter than others. More intelligent. Should we send those stupider workers to the fields? Make them work off their stupidity while the genius, better workers invent new machines?
Absolutely not! I’d ask why they should, and obviously there are many reasons.
…you do know what engineering is, right? It’s… Definitely not a magic ghost inhabiting halls. It’s learning physics, electronics, programming, and, well, engineering to create novel solutions to problems people have.
My point is that capitalism, for all of its failures, does indeed sometimes produce better things. You unequivocally hating on it, for no discernable reason; I I can’t find a reason for that.
It’s coming from someone who dedicated their entire life to being smarter than you or me about electronics.
Go on. Give your opinion.
So it’s been a month. Care to link to your article about dating?
… It’s coming from the culmination of, like 5 decades of absurdly educated engineering. If you want to call them workers, then sure.
Okay, sure, I’ll play devil’s advocate. The engineering that goes into a single iPhone is unfathomable. It would take an entire lifetime of study to even try to produce something close.
But Apple pays about a jillion engineers about a jillion dollars each, and so they’re able to create new iPhones every year or so. That was 100% powered by capitalism.
Yeah, workers physically put the pieces together. Do you think any of them could design an iPhone without any help or reference? Or a single body to tie it all together?
Yeah, I’m sure that’s accurate and complete information, and not just a shock horror show fishing for attention.
Good advice, I agree with it nearly 100%.
Out of curiosity, how much of it do you personally think is specific to neurodivergent people? Because outside of (obviously) number one, I think that’s just good advice in general.
I think I understand your points. And I mostly agree.
I genuinely don’t care about symbolic actions. I worry that corporations will heel turn the moment it is no longer safe or profitable to pander to the queers.
Yes, 100%. I’m terrified that public opinion will turn, and I am certain that corporations will desert us LONG before then. I’m happy that it is, currently, safe and profitable to pander to queers. It makes me feel safe, in a way it maybe shouldn’t. I know that the other shoe could drop at any time.
I’m really sorry that was your pride parade experience. Yeah, things along those lines are all too common. Most pride parades are… still… in 2024… very, very bad. And, yes, I don’t think corporations are helping in any way.
I agree that I want solidarity. it’s the only way forward…
Unpopular opinion, I know, but I fucking love corporate pride.
Do you remember being gay a decade ago? Corporations were just starting to touch us with a ten foot pole. And it felt amazing to be acknowledged as existing, without any negative connotations.
Two decades ago? No one would touch us, unless we were the butt of a joke. That we’d hear a million times everyday.
I see corporate pride as a sign of change: sure, those billionaires are just trying to get more money out of us. They couldn’t give a shit about you, or me, personally. But they’re now willing to openly market to us.
That means public opinion is changing. Support for the queer community is growing. We’ve even become a market to be advertised to.
No, those rainbow ads don’t mean anything more than the green and red ones in December, or the red hearts in February. But the fact that corporations are openly showing support, without fear of death threats, or “more importantly” losing money, means something to me.
I understand and absolutely agree with everything you’ve said, but I’m not asking for 100% certainty. I’m asking for A plan, no matter how absurd it is.
Every successful revolution in the history of the world has had an endgame. I’m not sure I see yours.
I want to learn how you would go from your current system, wherever you are in the world, to one without landlords. I’ll cut the bullshit and just openly say that I don’t think you’ve thought it through.
There are about a million pieces in the middle that are missing, and I promise you that none of them are pretty.
That’s an interesting proposal. I can see how that would eventually fix the problem.
I’ll have to look more into it, but right now I think I’m on board.
We’ve gotten very far from the topic on hand, but sure, can you recommend me a few books I haven’t read?
I don’t disagree with any single point that you’ve made. I agree with most of them.
But you mentioned linux. Tell me again, Linus Torvald, was he employed under a capitalist country when he created linux? How about most of its contributors?
Your point is easily defeated. Please make a better argument.