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Cake day: June 13th, 2023

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  • If the AI was a person the mods could have banned them. The developers had to patch how the AI responded to stimuli to prevent this behavior.

    The problem isn’t only the bad behavior. It’s the automation of the bad behavior that enables systems and essentially tool assisted people to mass produce the bad behavior in a way that can’t be managed without aggressive moderation.

    Also, that sucks that the filter got applied to the article. It wasn’t there when I read it initially.


  • So I was obsessively reading this manga about fish with legs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyo

    And the bonus manga with the Steven Universe human sized holes in the sides of mountains. This was before Steven Universe as far as I’m aware.

    spoiler

    The holes were not from incubated crystal gems.

    While my mom was listening to the earlier song OP’s talking about on a loop while working out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UVNT4wvIGY

    So the two are linked in my head as if the song was used in a trailer for a movie adaption of the manga. It was a while ago, like summer of 2011, but that’s what popped in my head the second I saw “Somebody I used to know”.

    It’s weird how both songs have the same intro but the new one sounds relatable. Oh, after watching the full music video for the new one it seems that the new is clearly a homage to the original:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riCP9x31Kuk

    That’s cool. I’m glad they made it. They even have the people covered in the background art standing against the wall. =D












  • Exactly, they should! What they’re doing instead is using violence on people outside their in-group.

    The fascists are trying to kill people. In response your argument proposes what is best described as a kind of Stockholm syndrome. But instead of a empathy for captors your argument would have victims have empathy for their murderers. Like some kind of extreme form of rape culture. It’s disgusting in my opinion.

    Neither are the people celebrating here, according to this logic. See the issue?

    Those tolerant people are feeling empathy for each other regardless of their group. They are even expressing empathy for Charlie Kirk’s children. So they are following the social contract where as the fascists are not.

    Apparently they are not, as exemplified by celebration of violence here.

    Those who break the peace treaty are not protected by it. The fascists broke the peace treaty so the fascists are not protected by it.

    They feel empathy for the intolerant

    The users in this thread are still tolerant of each other, regardless of group. So the empathy they feel towards each other is for tolerant people of different groups.

    , and dislike the emphatic.

    Fascists want to kill out groups. Fascists are practicing parochial empathy if even that. Your argument seems to have no grasp of what empathy is or how to practice it in a healthy or useful way so it is not compelling. edit: typo


  • You see the issue with this parochial approach to empathy?

    Tolerant people in groups whether that is by race, ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation, or gender are still feeling empathy for tolerant people outside their groups. So people practicing tolerance as a peace treaty are still practicing empathy not parochial empathy.

    Do you see the problem with using a straw man to argue? Refuting your argument is trivial.

    That’s what most here are doing.

    Considering this acts in accordance with self-preservation this is a rational and useful decision to have made.

    Should everyone in this group who celebrates breaking of the social contract be fair game for reprisal?

    Charlie Kirk and the other fascists he was a mouth piece for have already broken the social contract with their fascist takeover of the United States. This fascists administration goal is to around up minority groups into death camps and a pollute the planet as much as possible with coal powered ‘freedom cities’. The fascist chose to break the peace treaty and so they are no longer protected by it.

    The intolerant group has already decided those being tolerant are fair game before this. The fascists already wanted to kill people. We knew this before the election. They were completely open with what they wanted to do. Now tolerant people have to work together with people outside their groups to defend themselves against intolerant fascists. This is a clear cut example of real empathy.


  • You are describing parochial empathy, with the caveat that somehow you think it’s different when you do it.

    No parochial empathy is when an in-group only has empathy for the in-group and none for any out-groups.

    The resolution to the paradox of tolerance does not require individuals in a group to only experience empathy for other individuals in their group.

    Instead members of groups that adhere to the social contract or peace treaty of tolerance all feel empathy for each other.

    Only when an individual, individuals, or a group of people break the social contract or peace treaty are they no longer protected by it. Every individual in the groups still being tolerant still feel empathy for each other across group lines.

    This is so the groups that practice tolerance can defend themselves from a group that has chosen to be intolerant. Such as the Nazis killing minority groups in WWII.


  • That assumes a person isn’t a Hispanic day laborer at a hospital during an ICE raid. ICE seems to be focusing on places of work for their targets, but with the current pause on the federal judge’s ruling, ICE can violate the fourth amendment anywhere.

    ICE doesn’t need any ID to look at a person and make a judgement based on physical appearance.

    https://www.scotusblog.com/2025/09/supreme-court-allows-federal-officers-to-more-freely-make-immigration-stops-in-los-angeles/

    In her dissent, Sotomayor argued that the Trump administration, “and now the concurrence” by Kavanaugh, “has all but declared that all Latinos, U.S. citizens or not, who work low wage jobs are fair game to be seized at any time, taken away from work, and held until they provide proof of their legal status to the agents’ satisfaction.”

    In Sotomayor’s view, the Trump administration had not shown that it was ultimately likely to prevail on the merits. In particular, she wrote, “a set of facts cannot constitute reasonable suspicion if it ‘describes a very large category of presumably innocent’ people.” “Allowing the seizure,” she said, “of any Latino speaking Spanish at a car wash in Los Angles tramples the constitutional requirement that officers ‘must have a particularized and objective basis for suspecting the particular person stopped of criminal activity.’”