But you can do all of that with an app on your local device.

I can’t believe that a project hasn’t previously heavily focused on becoming a fully feature complete Self-hosted Podcast platform

…y tho? What’s the point?

The problem is using Proxmox…

I hate hunting for exes online to install the most basic software

What are your talking about? You don’t need to “hunt” for anything. You just type it into a search engine the same way you would on Linux…?

and how there’s no way to update all of my apps with a single click

…have you just never heard of the Microsoft store? You wanna take a guess at what that is?

Well now you’re just blatantly lying. Windows doesn’t execute anything without you asking it to. The difference is that it works when you do.

I didnt say anything about installing the OS. That’s the easy part.

That’s not what the title of the OP says. That’s my point.

Well they’re not wrong about clickbait…

From their FAQ

Yes, I am aware. I did not argue that is isn’t for testing. I said you didn’t need to compile it for Mac or Windows, because it’s not expected of you to have a CS degree to install it.

You probably just need to use chmod to let your system know it’s allowed to execute it.

WTF is chmod? Execute what? How can you not see that this is a problem?

that sounds like you dont understand or just dislike the process and conflate that with difficulty

LOL and what exactly else would you call that? They’re random to me. I don’t know them, I don’t want to know them, I just want it to work like every other sensible OS where I can figure out how to complete basic tasks without needing a computer science degree. That’s what most people want and it’s why Linux will remain a niche OS by nerds and for nerds, because that’s the way they like it, which is fine, but let’s not try to gaslight people into believing there’s no reason people might want something else.

It’s a PITA because there are a dozen different installation methods, and if anything at all is not functioning perfectly, the only advice you’ll get is typing random commands into the terminal that report back some generic error that you have no idea what to do with.

I’m assuming you have to compile that yourself because it’s in testing

Weird, you don’t have to compile the Windows or Mac versions…? 🤷‍♂️

hope it’s the real one

…why wouldn’t it be the “real one” on their website?

The fact Windows apps are required to check online for updates and then you have to open it in a browser and download and install it yourself is the most garbage experience. You’re just used to it.

…no, they update themselves? Have you just never used anything other than Linux? It’s hard to imagine how you would not know this unless you hadn’t.

It’ll keep it updated and you never have to think about it.

Other than the pop-ups telling you you need to update every 5 minutes?

The Minisforum tablet seems to work well with Linux.

I don’t know a Windows user that hasn’t had to edit registries, for example

You’re experiencing more delusions. 99.9% of Windows users wouldn’t even know what that is.

(with just a vague notion of “some software” when the vast majority is fine)

Again you’re asking me to write out what is a list a mile long. I’m not doing that.

I will give you one example though. I went to download GrayJay yesterday. I got the file. I have no idea what to do with it. Because there are a dozen types of files for Linux and all of them have to be installed differently. I got a folder. I know from years of experience how to install .deb, .rpm, flatpak and appimages, this folder has 398457 files in it and none of them are those. That’s not even getting into how a lot of Linux software, you’re expected to know how to compile the fuckin thing yourself…

You know how to install programs on windows? You download the .exe, double click the file and it installs itself, every time.

You know how to install programs on Mac? You click download on the .dmg, double click the downloaded file and it installs itself, every time.

The fact you just keep repeating “particular hardware or software that does not work” without actually giving an example shows you’re talking out of your ass though

LOL I love it when people get offended because someone disagrees with them and then try to put forward their experience as if it’s a fact. I didn’t repeat anything. I said it literally 1 time. You expect me to sit here and list the dozens of hardware configurations that I’ve personally used that have conflicts with Linux? Hell anything with an Nvidia GPU (which is the vast majority of GPUs in existence) is an exercise in software engineering just to get it functional.

That’s cool. That’s not been my experience at all. Nor has it many many other people. It’s like the number 1 complaint, and the number of delusional people who try to pretend like it doesn’t exist is insane.

The installation is not the problem…

I understand completely and I’m not arguing with you.

They wouldn’t save it from being thrown away if people like you weren’t buying them.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not trying to say its bad, just that buying from consumer-friendly companies as new is still better, in my opinion.

Buying used is not as bad but still supports the resale value of consumer-hostile devices, which indirectly supports their new value.