Who has time for a podcast?

Appears” to shove.

Just saying it wasn’t clear that he made contact with the fan. If there is another angle that the league can see that shows it he needs to be sat down a bit. That’s a no doubter.

But all I see is the fan jump back a little. Could be contact. Could just be a flinch from Phillips and the fan stepping back. Can’t say for sure.

That’s a very conservative take, I assume the fan gets the same benefit.

Fan was clearly instigating.

Wait, WTF? How the fuck do you have these two completely incongruent viewpoints?