ZahzenEclipse

I trust them more than “alt” historians who use flimsy evidence.

Yeah and we need to stop those too.

I’m not sure I’d trust non historians about history.

Well you took the cowards way out. I was hoping you’d actually try to contend with any of the many points they made as it would be an interesting conversation but you had to lean on ad homs in the end.

I think the distance I need to go probably makes it unfeasible for my particular scenario but its definitely something to pay attention too. Thanks for the back and forth.

Okay so what I’m hearing is you want companies to make investments in artists directly - so a form of profit sharing essentially. Why would a company invest in artists if artists get all of the profits when its successful and the company loses all of the capital if it fails? Why would any business want to partake in a system like that?

Okay, but what does a system look like that moves past both? How do you ensure people get resources if you don’t want capitalism or a planned economy?

Do you think if we stop the war on drugs, that will reduce the number of homeless drug addicted people? I don’t think it will. There’s need to be more to it than that, otherwise you’re literally not preparing for the 2nd half of that foot drop.

I largely agree alot of these problems are a result of criminalizing drug use but decriminizing doesn’t solve some of these problems with homeless folks which is probably more related to mental health services.

It’s a relevant point. We don’t allow cigarette companies to advertise to children so should it be acceptable to advertise crack or coke?

Do you think kids should be subjected to people shooting up drugs when playing outside or when going to school?

I am anti drug war personally but if any situation led to it being easier for kids to be subjected to that, that seems like a worse world.

I agree broadly with much of your assessment of history and many of the problems that bely current western society. The rich might be exploiting capitalism to their benefit but a capitalist system with proper regulation will always be better (in terms of Quality of life and freedom) for larger groups of people Than a planned economy.

People need to expect to pay for art and entertainment. People should. It’s immoral and unethical to not pay for art and expect art to be there.

How far of a distance was it? I’m trying to plan a trip right now and if I drive by myself the plane is easily cheaper. If I go with a group of people then driving is obviously cheaper.

the cost

The reason people use planes typically is its cheaper or roughly the same price when compared to driving - especially if you do t have the efficiency of being able to travel with multiple people.

the chance of getting sick because of the recycled air

Do you have anything to back this up? My understanding, during covid, air plane travel was relatively safe in comparison to other enclosed spaces due to the air filtering equipment.

I got banned from a subreddit for being to aggressive when calling out people who were justifying and calling for fire bombing of churches.

I’m pretty sure that was also used against me when I got banned from the whole platform but I’ll never know for sure.

The current right wing talking point is its not fraud because it wasn’t successful lol. Even if it was successful, it still wasn’t fraud because trump believed the election was stolen from him. Oh and state legislator can pick any electors they want at anytime.

It’s ridiculous

Those people will get banned if they are in a subreddit where people will report it. It’s pretty easy to get banned from reddit if you don’t follow certain social conventions and beliefs.

Anything that broke the “echochamber” is what got downvoted but this was never strictly about downvoting it was about moderation so im not sure why you shifted the focus to downvotes. We know you’re trying to essentially say the people who got downvoted or moderated deserved it because they said things so “bad” they deserved to be moderated. I’m not sure that’s always true or even mostly true.

You’re right that free speech typically means the ability to speak freely without government intervention but I think you’re being obtuse if you don’t see how those implications could be limited by corporations online and if you’re comfortable with censorship online not being democratically decided upon that’s cool but I don’t trust the corporations as much as you do i guess.

You need free speech to ensure teachers don’t get fired for teaching science. I’d be care about removing that ability from other roles and people just because you disagree with the premise.

In that sense, at least they are transparent a put being authoritarian. There are too many “populist left” spaces where those things aren’t spelled out and you’ll be banned for a vague rule that could be anything and everything. I despise when they don’t give transparency to their rules and how they enforce them. It’s generally bad too imo. That being said, mods have a hard fucking job admittedly and they aren’t paid.