I’m sorry you feel that way, and your feelings are totally valid. I promise I’m being completely authentic, I care deeply about trying to reduce suffering among as many living beings as possible, but I recognize that progress is impossible without some level of discomfort.

All the best!

Me too! I figured you probably didn’t genuinely hold these viewpoints, but someone reading this thread might, so I appreciate the opportunity to speak directly to those people through you.

Maybe, maybe not, but this post has sparked discussions in the comments where people are learning about class consciousness, so IMO, it’s a good thing.

I’m sorry that you’re feeling depressed and I hate that I added to that, and I’m sorry for assuming - would you like to explain what you’re feeling and why? I would gladly be a sympathetic ear, and we could maybe work together to find something hopeful amongst it all?

Much love & solidarity

just so you know, I’m not actually american, lol

Ah, I’m guessing you’re American, and you think that democrats are the left and republicans are the right? The democrats are actually center-right, they’re all about capitalism and protecting the interests of the ruling class.

The true left vs. right dichotomy actually IS the class war. The working class of the left is fighting against the ruling class, and the working class on the right is unfortunately blinded by propaganda and brainwashing into supporting the interests of the ruling class. As leftists, we need to help those on the right break free of their mind prisons by having conversations just like this one. Solidarity is everything.

Leftists in the United States historically haven’t been represented by mainstream politics exactly for that reason, and there has been centuries of anti-leftist propaganda in the US, that’s because leftists actually pose a threat to the establishment.

I disagree with this. Violence always leads to more violence, so it should always be our last option on the table. Remember that those who commit violence will also suffer from PTSD.

We need to be willing to escalate, but also to de-escalate. We need a peaceful revolution which is willing to defend itself. An implicitly violent revolution does not remove the ruling class, it simply replaces the existing ruling class with a different ruling class (e.g. the American Revolution, the USSR). We need to completely abolish the ruling class and prevent them from ever returning.

The pain and discomfort we feel from being confronted with reality can be depressing when we feel powerless to change it, but we aren’t powerless. We can change it. But to change it, we need to raise awareness of the issue, and we need to raise class consciousness. I’m sorry to hear that you want me to suffer, but I’ll take it for the opportunity to help others gain more class consciousness, because that is how we build a revolution.

Can you explain how?

Thanks for your comment, can you explain what you mean? I’m not sure that I understand.

Hey, thanks for the thoughtful question, sorry to see people downvoting you.

Socialism is a broad tent - all it functionally means is that instead of the ruling class owning all of the factories, businesses, hotels, etc. where people work, the actual people who do the work own and control their workplace. Instead of having a single boss at work who owns the place, you’d have a stake of ownership yourself, and equal say over your workplace.

So there are obviously lots of different approaches we can take to achieve that, and I agree we need to learn from history and avoid the mistakes of the past.

Capitalism inevitably results in fascism, so it’s a choice either between a utopian ideal that can be difficult to achieve, or a capitalist death cult which is guaranteed to consume as much as it can before it collapses.

and which of the baltic states is that? :p

you too!

big W growth moment mate, proud of you <3

okay, just checking! take care <3

you know you can just make your own community that bans political posts, or indeed, anything you don’t like, right?

No disrespect, but you probably should worry a little, I don’t mean to be a downer, I want to encourage you to organize, join or form a union, so that we can fight back against this stuff. We really need to get off our collective asses and depose the ruling class, and that will need us to get organized.

I’m sorry, but you’re mistaken. The market leader, Starship Technologies:

As of October 2024, the company operates in over 100 locations in the United States, the United Kingdom, Germany, Finland and Estonia.

it literally already exists and is in use, with the market leader having completed over 9 million deliveries, there’s also a viral video of a food delivery robot getting hit by a train

thanks for sharing your thoughts, respectfully, I disagree, but I hope you have a great day regardless!