I know “all time rank” now means some combination of ability, stats, accolades, longevity, etc. so Jokic couldn’t possibly be in that upper tier yet for people here, but If we’re talking purely about who contributes the most to winning basketball games relative to their era, I’m putting Jokic up against any of them

Finally a “dagger” highlight that’s actually a dagger

Because they’re hyped in 99% of other posts that aren’t explicitly about players being overrated

I agree but it’s really hard to say how they’ll age. There was a time when people thought Lebron would age poorly because he was reliant on athleticism, like Giannis now. The reality though is that there’s a minimum level of athleticism necessary to be a high level professional athlete, and those guys have a lot further to fall before they’re below the threshold. Jokic should be capable of all the same things he is now at 36, but if he simply can’t make it up and down the court quick enough, his value would be greatly diminished

More about fit than anything. Pippen is a better #2, Dame is probably a better #1

You can say that about the statement that they wouldn’t have won without him too. It’s a hypothetical