Wait, is this really idpol? The MAGA crowd are mostly very racist people. They would dislike anyone who isn’t a rich white male.

That’s what they keep telling me, but every step closer to free market capitalism we take seems to make things worse.

Nope, I’m being completely genuine. I suspect the people I’ve talk to about the subject before did either a poor job explaining it or were too far in love with Lenin have a realistic perspective with on things. Guy was a human like the rest of us, not a saint.

I will need some time to process all this information. Thank you for taking the time to talk with me about this subject.

P.S. I am not a Zionist or Homophobic.

Ok, I feel like my position is moving a bit. Do you have any information on the how Democratic this all is? It seems like Lenin was head of state, and couldn’t be removed. Would Lenin have supported being voted out? I am not opposed to authority, but it needs to be tethered to the peoples will.

I understand that some action needed to be taken to force the bourgeoisie out of power. But it isn’t clear to me that that power was returned to the people.

Which bits specifically marked where Lenin diverged from Marx?

You tell me? Why are you so excited about Lenin if he didn’t diverge from Marx?

Last time I checked, Lenin wasn’t very Democratic. He put a lot of people in concentration camps. Seems like a very fascist thing to do. Seems like all he did was talk a big game and become an authoritarian. Why would you stand this guy?

Why would I care about the personal happiness of a fascist? My dude, you want me dead. Nice touch on reporting my post.

Edit: on the 0.0001 percent chance your serious. Look at the Wikipedia entry for Marxist leninism that I linked you to and look at the general criticism section.

Yeah, I would mind. It would be a waste of my time because you don’t care. It really doesn’t matter what I say. Because you’ll just use your own personal definition for things instead of the commonly accepted definitions like you did with the Marxist-Leninist bit. We would literally need to agree on a dictionary before we could even begin a somewhat productive conversation.

Again what would I gain? You’re asking me to play a game of chess with you, but you and I both know the moment it looks bad for you. You’re going to flip the board and poop on the table. So why would I play at all?

As for the homophobic stuff. I’m a straight guy and I would happily throat Marx’s sausage. So there I canceled out the homophobia.

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I’m a Marxist,

Great I was wrong, you are not a Marxist-Leninist.

By your definition, I am both a Tankie and a Fascist.

No, a Marxist-Leninist is not the same thing as a Marxist. A Marxist is critical of capitalism. They don’t say anything specific other than a socialist society is good. Which I generally agree with. A Marxist-Leninist goes into detail on top of that witch results in Fascist outcomes.

This whole “Marxist-Leninist are Marxists” thing is a fascist talking point. Of course fascists are going to co-opt the word “Marxist”, especially when it gets popular, it’s happened before and it will happen again. What is important is the outcomes of the ideology not the names.

Every Marxist believes democracy is good

I Agree. Glad you are pro-democracy. I don’t think you are a fascist or a tankie anymore.

Genuinely, what does this sentence even mean?

Sorry, trusted voice to text too much. You guessed the correct interpretation. I agree with your answer.

Why do I need to write a 20-page thesis on why tankies are fascists? If you’re a Tankie, and it seems like you are because you are being very defensive, what could I write that could convince you that tankies are fascists?

Let’s try this another way.

Do you personally believe that democracies are good? That law should be decided by people?

Or do you believe that authoritarians are the best way to rule?

https://theslowburningfuse.wordpress.com/2019/08/14/the-struggle-against-fascism-begins-with-the-struggle-against-bolshevism/

It doesn’t hit all 14, but it’s a good chunk of them. You don’t need to hit all 14 to be considered Fascist.

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marxism–Leninism

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_fascism

Fascism is like the rising ocean. Imagine all the “brown people” near the shores and the white people at The high ground. You know out group versus in group.

The rise in fascism is causing the ocean level to rise drowning the people who are closest to the shore. This is analogous to people dying to political nonsense that otherwise wouldn’t.

If Trump gets elected. The ocean rises faster. In the next 4 years we’ll see a lot more people. Drowned.

If Biden gets elected the ocean still rises but it rises slower than with Trump. People still die, but less people die.

From a defeating fascist perspective. A slower rising ocean means more time to organize and spread information.

Also, politics is both the hardest thing and the easiest thing to understand. I consider myself a pretty intelligent person and it still took me awhile to really understand what was going on and I needed help. It’s crazy! It’s like everyone is playing chess on the same board. Some people are making basic moves. Some people are just pawns. Only a few people are playing 5D chess and mopping up the field.

Tankies are fascist in my book.

I still think a good chunk of the code will be visible. You can have all the code up to the point where you call the proprietary function. Obviously you won’t get to see what’s inside that function but you can guess. Also, a lot of proprietary libraries have that functionality really well documented.

Everything is political. Likewise Everything is a political stunt.

Political stunts that remove the right to have an abortion are bad stunts. Political stunts that give the right to have an abortion are good stunts.

I don’t think so, seems like I am a part of a rag-tag group of people who are doing “jobs” to get rich. I don’t think we have any formal government or organization backing.

I guess I don’t know the full story of everyone I am working with yet. So there could be a twist I am unaware of.

Yes you are correct. I usually interpret people who say “capitalism was a mistake” to mean “to continue to peruse unregulated free market capitalism in light of all the evidence that is causes harm was a mistake”. I interpret it this way because I have never seen anyone who was seriously advocating for feudalism. I have seen a lot of people seriously advocating for socialism, communion, or unregulated free market capitalism.

I figured you were one of the free market capitalist type when reading your initial comment because it seemed like your point was very nit-picky on the meme.

Were you concerned that this meme was being made by someone who wants to return to feudalism?

Yes, Das Kapital by Marx.

A broken clock is right twice a day?