Flatpak isn’t going to have every library, cli tool, or even every GUI tool. I think in the end out of date just isn’t worth it.

I’d like to see non-synthetic benchmarks showing real world performance increase in otherwise as close as possible to identical systems

Why would you think soldering would increase performance vs socketed at all much less provide “much higher performance”

If soldered was the only option ans 6 skud was enough for everyone everyone would have to buy very expensive hardware to increase one spec instead of smart people getting to mix match and upgrade.

If you use a GUI configuration tool for NetworkManger like virtually every user I don’t know how that works. Odds are not well.

Are they so different that it’s justified to have so many different distributions?

Linux isn’t a project its a source compatible ecosystem. A parts bin out of which different people assemble different things. The parts being open source means you don’t need anyone’s permission or justification to make something different out of them.

From these many and varied efforts comes life, vitality, interest, intellectual investment. You can’t just take the current things you like best and say well what if we all worked on THOSE when many of them wouldn’t even have existed save for the existence of a vital ecosystem that supported experimentation and differentiation.

If we really believed in only pulling together maybe you would be developing in cobol on your dos workstation.

Are we suggesting that rich people who get a product for free and use it to forklift more piles of money into their scrooge mcDuck like vault ought to demand more accountability from the people who provided the free forklift.

How about they pay for that?

Necessary for performance of such service is like needing your address to ship you food or your identity data to connect you with individuals seeking to employ you. EG the info is necessary and relevant to the performance of the actual task at hand not I need all your data so I can sell it to make money. The alternative is so expansive that it would automatically authorize all possible data collection which is obviously not the intent of the law.

Yes because having firefox in /usr/bin/firefox is trashy and disorganized compared to having it in /home/$USER/.var/app/flatpak/app/org.mozilla.firefox/x86_64/stable/6b73214102d2c232a520923fc04166aed89fa52c392b4173ad77d44c1a8fb51b/files/bin/firefox and running firefox is so much more gross than flatpak run org.mozilla.firefox

Can you like actually hear yourself?

It also meets any reasonable definition of bloat

I take 3 seconds looking at what’s updating after I clicked update knowing its incredibly unlikely that anything will break and if it did it would take 30 second to reboot into the snapshot that was automatically created by running the update script.

If package foo requires runtimev1 and bar requires runtimev1.1 you will end up with installing v1 and v1.1 with similar but not identical files and if another package requires 1.2 and 1.3 and 2.0 then 2.1 eventually you will have a whole lot of libsomethingorother.

I have used countless distros over 20 years including Arch although right now I’m primarily running Void on my personal computers. “Bloating up the package database” remains a meaningless factor because it doesn’t bear meaningfully on real world performance or experience. Your computer doesn’t break more or perform worse because you installed more software because this isn’t windows.

Normal systems that you don’t do something extremely creative with don’t normally develop conflicts because the packages are literally all designed to work with the same version.

The words " bloating up your actual system and package database." don’t actually mean anything except that you don’t know what any of those words mean together.

I have 2 flatpaks installed and I already have duplicated runtimes not to speak of the deps themselves that are built into the apps. There is definitely duplication.

Normal packaging systems don’t get stuck nor break because you installed more software and its hilarious that you are somehow removing bloat by using a packaging system that calls for you to download the same deps over and over again.

those “hundreds of deps” are part of your flatpak and you will probably be downloading just as much fortunately fast internet is relatively cheap as is storage space and you probably won’t notice if it takes 15 seconds more.

I don’t enjoy troubleshooting flatpak specific issues when a native package is available personally. Honestly who cares if it pulls in 50 deps if they take in total a few GB when 2TB ssd are cheap.

It is accurate that the first few flatpaks will use proportionally more storage as you will need more basic resources but you will will always be using substantially more storage than traditional apps. That said storage is cheap and the correct answer is to buy more instead of choosing tech based on storage requirements.

flatpak has gtk breeze no the theme for qt apps and in general I don’t see how this would help non flatpak applications which aren’t going to be looking in some flatpak dir for themes.

Our justice system is a POS but fixing it is the only reasonable path forward. Community “justice” is how we got lynchings. It was and would continue to be a horror.