Ayton is a tough player to properly evaluate, the Ayton apologist will tell you he is so much better than Nurkic, but just because he is a little bit better than nurkic, doesn’t mean he is living up to being the number 1 overall pick unless you think being the next Clint capela or Jarrett Allen is what you want out of a number 1 overall pick! Ayton isn’t a top 5 player in his own draft class if you were going to redo the 2018 draft, and despite Nurkic not doing much in Phoenix most suns fans don’t want ayton back. But ayton is a solid player who you can win with, and if he made a little less you would be happy with him as your 4 best player on a good team, if ayton was taken around the 8 to12 pick in the first round of the draft you would be happy with his production.

And as a bull fan that’s how Derrick Rose’s career was changed, he will never learn.

Not another year of the toxic ass jokic vs embiid MVP race again, it made me despise all basketball fans and the game itself! I am a jokic fan but I like good basketball and the jokic vs embiid conversation brings out the worst in people!

I thought it was about playing NBA basketball, not mma or boxing, I didn’t know to be good at basketball you have to be some scary tough guy.