I think you’ve confused our conversation with the other conversations you are having here. I started talking to you when you responded to the hypothetical question “if there were only X and y candidates as options, which would you vote for”, to which you responded with something along the lines of: “neither, you can say ‘none of the above’, you know?”

I’m refuting that with you, voting neither in that hypothetical situation is not saying "none of the above’ it’s saying 'either of the above '.

I see you’re involved in lots of conversations in this thread, where many people disagree with you on points more directly related to the actual situation in hand, so I can understand if you’ve mixed me up with some other context you have elsewhere, but I really don’t care about your country’s election or your candidates or who wins (I care a little, but I am not directly involved or affected), I’m just disagreeing with the evidently false statement you’ve made above. Hopefully this has cleared up the conversation.

I’m not talking about the narrative you’ve got in your head about what statements you’re making with your actions, I’m also not including what you suppose or predict the result of the vote to be, that’s not logical or helpful…

I’m talking about simple actions and consequences, let me lay this out more simply:

No vote: no change for either candidates chances of success == no preference

A vote for either: a change for both candidates chances of success (slightly improved and slightly decreased) == a preference

I don’t know about all that, I just enjoy logic. I’m replying to you saying “I’d choose not to vote”, that is not the same as saying “none of the above”, it’s the same as saying “any of the above”

You’re not saying “none of these”, as it will ultimately still be one of them, more accurately you’re saying: “I’ll take either equally”

Thanks, I was quite out of the loop!

What joke did KG make?

I moved to quay.io years ago and have never looked back.

These both sound like valid lifestyles assuming everyone involved is informed and consenting, neither are worse, because neither are bad.

I got an oral b toothbrush (primary selling point for me, was the pressure sensor that alerts you if you’re pressing too hard against your teeth, I think I paid around €150 for it back then), well over 8 years ago, and it’s still going strong. The battery still easily holds a week’s charge too, which is great for holidays

But the idea of an indicator is to indicate that you will soon turn the steering wheel, not that you’ve already started to turn it.

It’s hilarious to me, that “safety first” is written second

We can easily stop having children then

That’s last pane is essentially an eve online screenshot

Or to quote Terry Pratchett:

Give a man a fire and he’ll be warm for a day; set a man on fire and he’ll be warm for the rest of his life.

Full disclosure, I am not a vegan.

However, I do know that not all plants we eat die as a result of being eaten, for example, eating apples from an apple tree does not kill anything - I suppose I can see that this is like eating eggs from a chicken.

Another example could be eating the leaves of rocket lettuce (but choosing not to uproot it), or the stalks of celery or rhubarb is another example, in both cases the plant can return to complete health over time.

Then there are some plants, such as grasses that require the ends of their blades to be eaten in order to be healthy.