You never proven me to wrong what are you talking. You failed to explain the detail of 30% and you run away to industry standard and Epic. Sure. Steam is the best option currently available, that’s no doubt. It’s better that if they lower 30% fee, that’s I said. You’ll answer industry standard and Epic with provocations. Which is reasonable in a way but not what I’m talking about.

End of conversation. I don’t want to talk to you anymore, felt so exhausted.

So because it’s an industry standard, my opinion is wrong (with lots of swears)? Not because it’s actual details, but because standard? huh. Ok then, there is nothing to talk about here.

“Pub/Devs love lowering Steam fee” and “Steam has high exposure” are irrelevant.

I don’t hate your opinion in single time (except swears), I just don’t like your zealous mindset. Like what the hell is this a logic behind this: “… they don’t have to use it, GOG, PlayStation or Xbox if they don’t want to” We are talking about Steam’s fee and saying like this means you’re forcing to finish conversation.

“Also, you’re an adult right? You should probably stay off message boards and any publicly used websites with comments if swear words hurt you so much. No one is forcing you to be here or engage just like no one is forcing you to use steam or put games on there.” Then I can report your swear comments …right? Lemmy is quite different from the place like reddit you might not imagine. I suggest you to visit there if you like things what you’ve said.

“I never told you to shut up you are good at putting words in peoples mouths I have noticed.” I mean look back your comments.

Again, I’m talking about 30% is high, and you say it’s not. Fine, then instead of looking into the details, you are trying to convincing me with what’s competitors doing, which I don’t care at all, with swears (not this time though).

I can’t get what you meant at 4th paragraph.

“not charging the fees isn’t going to lower prices” No, Steam is heavily competitive market, which means lowering fees lowers price to compete. Even so, publishers and dev take excess sounds nice to me. Yes sir please develop more games. And… why I should care about exposures? I’m just a customer.

I’ve seen additional fees multiple times at bill screen so I misunderstood. I apologize. Though, usually payment fees are below 5%. 30% is still too much cut. Doesn’t convince me at all.

Why should I shut up because other all competitors which I don’t care have similar fees? I’m still not getting answer from you about lowering fees means lowering game prices, which is core of my opinion. Why are you caring Valve’s profit margin so much? That’s Valve’s job and not customers concern.

And… why do you full trust with Valve? I mean we are just buying licenses to play … ok this will be a long tangent that I don’t want to stretch. Are you a Valve’s employee or Gabe himself? If not, why are you so zealous? I can’t get it at all.

Calm down bro. I don’t hate Steam. I have hundreds of games on Steam and I launch Steam every day, play some games.

Ah yes, cashing process. Steam takes 30% after transactional fees applied, you know that right? Or are you talking about web/transactional server cost? Yeah it costs some but not like that much as you mentioned. Still feels like 30% of fee is too much for just a game launcher with cashing process. I don’t care about your business models with lots of swear, without solid convincing data about 30% of fee is necessary to maintain Steam.

Also swearing too much doesn’t make you look good, I’m sorry but I felt like talking to an angry cult member.

I never said GOG is good either, chill.

You’re still defending Steam’s 30% fee for no good reason besides cherry-picking failed competitors.

Also if you think “sale is good” and “Steam is customer friendly” (I think so too), why are you so mad when I talked about Steam’s 30% fee? I just said 30% is too high for just a game launcher. Fee acts like tariff, if Steam lowers fee little bit, game price will go down too. Which is super customer friendly. Don’t you like it?

Look, I don’t care how much you fangirling Steam, but it certainly doesn’t help Steam any better.

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“Never said not to argue.” Ok.

Btw, PlayStation and Xbox provide whole console system, Apple store and Google play are also 30% and they provide iOS and Android. It’s not same as Valve.

Wait, why we should not argue? Steam is not perfect so we yap. Also not good enough considering it’s just a game listing library and still taking 30% cut from devs imo.

I had bookmarked more different polls, but I lost all after I renewed my PC :/ You can look into it and find more.

The views and opinions of South-Eastern regions residents of Ukraine: April 2014 https://kiis.com.ua/?lang=eng&cat=reports&id=302&page=1&y=2014&m=4

The vast majority regions that Russia currently occupied/demanding were overwhelmingly pro-Ukrainian (opposing to Russian aggression) before the invasion. Or are you referring the annexation referendum or some vote results made under occupation by foreign military force? If you brutally invade a neighboring country and force its people to make an annexation referendum at gunpoint, surely the result will favor you, and you can invade other countries wherever you want like that.