high-quality, plant-based foods, low in animal products

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plant-based sources of proteins and fats were associated with about a 15% lower risk of CHD

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Fair enough that the guy has been able to do a lot of other problematic others things

Was more so intended as hyperbole given a lot of the stuff he’s done lately with the bizarre inverted food pyramid, taking part of dairy promotion campaigns, promoting of raw milk (which has a ton more health risks, but is cheaper for the industry to produce), attempts to paint beef tallow as somehow healthy, claiming to “end the war on saturate fat”, etc.

Uh the UK supreme court also prohibited Oatly from even using “post-milk generation” as a slogan. It’s 100% dairy industry pressure because they hate competition rather than because they actually care about labeling

There’s so much interesting history with plant-milks! For the west, almond milk has an especially long history. Here’s an article about how there was a whole sensation around it in medieval Europe

Outside the west, soy milk has a very long history too.

A tofu broth (doufujiang) c. 1365 was used during the Mongol Yuan.[1][2] As doujiang, this drink remains a common watery form of soy milk in China, usually prepared from fresh soybeans. The compendium of Materia Medica, which was completed in 1578, also has an evaluation of soymilk. Its use increased during the Qing dynasty, apparently due to the discovery that gently heating doujiang for at least 90 minutes hydrolyzed or helped to break down its undesirable raffinose and stachyose, oligosaccharides, which can cause flatulence and digestive pain among lactose-intolerant adults.[14][15] By the 18th century, it was common enough that street vendors were hawking it;[16] in the 19th, it was also common to take a cup to tofu shops to get hot, fresh doujiang for breakfast. It was already often paired with youtiao, which was dipped into it.[17]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soy_milk#History

Yep! It grew popular in medieval Europe periods during lent, but it ended up going far beyond that

But the sheer number of recipes from the Middle Ages that use almond milk, particularly those that combine it with (decidedly un-Lenten) meat, makes it clear that chefs came to regard it as a staple instead of just an alternative ingredient. Almonds turn up everywhere; in the first extant German cookbook, Das Buch von Guter Spise, dating to around 1350, almost a quarter of the recipes call for it.

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Almond milk appeared in more overtly sweet dishes, too. A strawberry pudding could be made by soaking strawberries in wine, then grinding the mixture together with almond milk, sugar, and an assortment of spices, before boiling it all to thicken it.

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Describing the diet of a pair of priests in 15th century Dorset in her book Food in Medieval Times, Professor Melitta Weiss Adamson, of the University of Western Ontario, writes that “almond milk must have played a significant role in their diet judging from the quantities of almonds bought.” She calls the late Medieval world’s appetite for almond milk not just a “love,” but an “addiction.”

https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/almond-milk-obsession-origins-middle-ages

Not only that, but even in 1755, plant milks were already in the dictionary

2. Emulsion made by contusion of seeds. Pistachoes, so they be good and not musty, joined with almonds in almond milk, or made into a milk of themselves, like unto almond milk, are an excellent nourisher.

Samuel Johnson’s Dictionary, 1775

Next thing I know you’re going to tell me peanut butter comes from peanuts!?

Others in captivity, for instance: Chimps Are No Chumps: Give Them An Oven, They’ll Learn To Cook

Not the person you originally replied to, but eating plants directly would at least be a sort of harm reduction in that case. It takes a lot more plants to raise non-human animals than to just use plants directly. This is also a big part of why the environmental impact is so high for meat, dairy, etc.

1 kg of meat requires 2.8 kg of human-edible feed for ruminants and 3.2 for monogastrics

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2211912416300013

And this is going on during a (one day) state wide general strike in Minnesota

Protests in Minnesota have been going on constantly every day in multiple places, the media is just hardly reporting on it. They are not small either. People have also formed entire network to monitor ICE and make sure that people can respond fast anywhere they go

Voting can stop you from going backwards, but voting alone is not enough. It will not fix the mess we are in by itself. It’s vote and take action not vote or take action. There is absolutely not time to wait for elections. Voting is important, but it has to be done with other action or the country will not survive

Minnesota is also in the middle of general strike today as well. Statewide, for the first time in almost 100 years. Economic power matter, and people are starting to use their leverage there in a real meaningful way

He’s uh claiming to be “ending the war on saturated fats” so one may want to re-evaluate. The focus on animal proteins (plant proteins get only side mentions) and animal fats is already going against what actual health officals say. For instance from the article:

As it is, Americans are consuming protein in amounts well above the amount that is necessary to sustain health and development," Marie-Pierre St-Onge, a professor at Columbia University Nutrition, told ABC News.

You can still see it in Bluesky, you just need to enable viewing things labeled “graphic media” in the moderation settings (needs “adult content” enabled first) https://bsky.app/moderation

You can still see it in Bluesky, you just need to enable viewing things labeled “graphic media” in the moderation settings (needs “adult content” enabled first) https://bsky.app/moderation

Animal agriculture is a massive contributor to some of the largest problems in the world

It’s at least ~15-17% of climate emissions and is enough to make us miss climate targets on its own even if fossil fuels are immediately stopped

~73% of the world’s antibiotics go to animal agriculture, leading to antibiotic resistance diseases. It’s directly attributed to at least 50% of all zoonetic diseases since 1940

It’s one the most dangerous and exploitative industries to work in. There are multiple human right watch reports on working conditions in just the US (“When We’re Dead and Buried, Our Bones Will Keep Hurting” and Blood, Sweat, and Fear). And this is not limited to the US, here’s just a handful of reporting from The Guardian Revealed: exploitation of meat plant workers rife across UK and Europe, ‘The whole system is rotten’: life inside Europe’s meat industry

The rates of factory farming globally are far higher than most people think. It’s around 74% of all globally farmed land animals, and 90% of total global farmed land and marine animals. It’s around ~99% for the US. The number of animals slaughtered each year is immense at ~80 billion land animals / year, >100 total animals per year. The sheer number of individuals who go through that makes the level of suffering hard to parallel

And that’s just some of the harm the industry does, but I don’t want to ramble too long without talking about how to go about solving this

There is more we as individuals can do here than we can for 90% of other issues. With the laws of supply and demand, simply reducing our collective demand makes the industry smaller. That’s doable at the induvidal level: simply reducing (and ideally eliminating) our individual meat, dairy, etc. consumption can have a real impact. This is more achievable than people think. For instance, Germany has seen a 12% decline in per capita meat consumption over the last ~10 years. We don’t need wait for any institutions to make changes before that can work by doing collective action

There are also some systemic changes we can push for in the near-medium future to help make that happen faster. For instance, just making plant-based foods the default tends to increase plant-based consumption by several orders of magnitude. NYC hospitals implemented plant-based defaults and made their plant-based consumption rate go up to 51% of meals and reduced the average cost of a meal by 59 cents. If that sounds interesting to anyone there are campaigns with real successes to get more institutions and companies to implement those. There groups like the Better Food Foundation, Greener By Default, the Plant Based Treaty is running a Related Campaign, No Milk Tax which has gotten hundreds of chains to drop their plant milk up charge, among others

Can we bring back talking about beans all the time on Lemmy? Asking for a friend who love beans (aka me)

https://archive.is/oYVuY for the paywall

Unfortunately that’s not enough to solve the disease problem. The biggest problem is that the production and consumption levels are high for meat, dairy, etc. There’s a good paper which talks about animal agriculture having a “disease trap” of sorts. (The infectious disease trap of animal agriculture)

The gist is that if you operate with intensified animal agriculture, there’s the obvious disease risk with tons of creatures close together. However, if you try to do less intensive production, you increase land usage significantly which increases deforestation and thus zoonetic disease risk by exposing more wild animals to human populations

The main way out is to move away from the industry and towards the direction of plant-based diets which take up less land and don’t have the crowding issues

Have you tried just compiling it with fewer threads? Would almost certainly reduce the RAM usage, and might even make the compile go faster if it you’re needing to swap that heavily