“This is a collapse of the Democratic Party.” Consumer advocate, corporate critic and former presidential candidate Ralph Nader comments on the reelection of Donald Trump and the failures of the Democratic challenge against him.

Despite attempts by left-wing segments of the Democratic base to shift the party’s messaging toward populist, anti-corporate and progressive policies, says Nader, Democrats “didn’t listen.” Under Trump, continues Nader, “We’re in for huge turmoil.”

  • Steve
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    17 days ago

    That’s a logical fallacy called an Ad Hominem. Where you don’t argue against an idea, instead attack the person voicing it.

    You’re opinion of a person, doesn’t mean anything to their argument. It actually works against finding truth and solutions.

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      17 days ago

      So then yes, you would like to know what Newt Gingrich’s take is as long as it is a valid argument?

      You don’t think that maybe some people don’t deserve attention in the first place?

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        17 days ago

        Good ideas deserve attention. It doesn’t matter where they come from.
        Your idea here isn’t a good one, and no longer has mine.

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          No one has a right to media attention just because they have a good idea. I assume if a serial killer had a good idea, you wouldn’t want it on all the front pages. Maybe let them tell someone else and have that person bring it up if it’s such a good idea.

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            17 days ago

            Who said the person deserves attention? Even a right to it?
            I didn’t.

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              Okay, well then I stand by my point. Ralph Nader doesn’t deserve attention on election issues no matter what good ideas he has. If they’re good enough ideas, he has plenty of media connections he can tell them to.

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                17 days ago

                Then engage in the discussion at hand, rather than trying to derail it.

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                  17 days ago

                  You do not get to dictate how or why I post until you become a mod. If you don’t like what I have to say, you can either block me or not respond. Ordering me to do what you want isn’t going to work.

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                    Not a dictate. Just a suggestion if you’re interested in being constructive. Maybe I’m wrong about that.