Somehow this is the only country on earth where this seems to happen. When talking about shootings involving guns, okay, fine, the US is certainly an outlier there, but every country has cars and police.

This is murder.

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    I mean, could he not just have taken the license plate number then sent agents to go knock on her door later? This is shoplifting, not armed robbery.

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      could he not just have taken the license plate number then sent agents to go knock on her door later?

      No. She was driving a car without license plates, which is unusual.

      Young got into a four-door Lexus sedan that did not have a license plate and was illegally parked in a handicapped spot, Belford said.

      https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/local/2023/08/25/blendon-township-police-statement-fatal-kroger-parking-lot-shooting-takiya-kiya-young-columbus-ohio/70680484007/

      However, I do not believe that fact justifies shooting her.

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          I don’t think the plates would have been in the video frame at any point if they had been on the car. I don’t know if there are any pictures of the scene or not.

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      She drove forward with the officer directly in front of the vehicle. Regardless of what happened previously, thats an action that could kill someone.

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        Isn’t it kinda stupid of the police officer to put himself in that dangerous position. He could just as well have let her go and find her later or follow her. Trying to stop a car by standing in front of it is imo. just stupid and unprofessional.

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          US cops are the kind to pull out a guy’s multitool, fold out the knife, put it in the guy’s hand, grab their hand and hold it at their own throat.

          Then waiting for them to twitch, so they can shoot them dead.

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          Standing in front of the car wasn’t a smart thing to do, I agree with you there. “Let her go and find her later” isn’t really how it works though.

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            This exactly how it works in normal countries. She was not robing a bank she was just shop lifting. You get the license plates and invite her to court some time later.

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              Nah, you don’t get to just drive away from the police anywhere, sorry. Most would use less lethal means to stop her, but I don’t think any competent force would just let her leave.

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                Can’t speak for anywhere else, but can speak for personal experience, here in Italy “take the license plate” or “get in the police car and follow her” would be our procedure. She has not pulled out a weapon, and law enforcement is not supposed to escalate anything, ever. (Exceptions might apply, poorly trained officers exists). Even if she pulled a gun, probably we’d just try to evacuate everyone in the area and call for reinforcements before thinking of pulling out our firearms.

                On average we get 5 police deaths in a year out of about 300-350 thousands agents, so I guess it works well enough.

                (and yes, I do realize that in US there’s a lot of armed and trigger happy civilians, but that’s just another issue to solve. If a civilian needs a gun for self protection , there’s something really really wrong with society in my opinion)

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                Nor would any competent force give an ultimatum of “stop or die” over a trivial crime. Most countries would get in their car and try to follow safely, if that wasn’t possible you run the plates and send a summons. A hand should never be near a gun in this situation.

                There’s no defending this.

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            That is literally the standard procedure for dealing with shoplifters.

            And also this woman wasn’t the shoplifter.

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        The cop deliberately walked in front of her car and pointed a gun at her. She panicked. I’d probably panic too if someone pointed a gun at me. Granted, I probably wouldn’t have drove forward, but it was entirely possible for the cop to not have walked in front of her car, for him not to have pulled a gun. It seems like him pulling the gun is what caused this.

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        Yeah probably not the best to drive at police. Amazed that even needs to be said and isn’t obvious to most people

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          Man, there’s some cooked people in here.

          You could murder an officer in cold blood and they’d find a way to justify it.

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            You say that in a thread about a woman murdered by an officer in cold blood. Wow.

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                Except that guy isn’t dead. The woman is. The cop has plenty of opportunities to do a really big part of his job, de-escalate, rather than do the opposite, position himself in front of her vehicle and immediately point a gun at her. He went right for the death threat and almost immediately delivered.