For any UI devs: I’ve starting working on a lemmy front end called
lemmy-ui-leptos [https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ui-leptos] using leptos
[https://leptos.dev/], a Rust UI framework with isomorphic support, and tailwind
+ daisyUI [https://daisyui.com/] for the component styling. This could
eventually replace the frankenstein’s monster that lemmy-ui has become. Some
reasons for doing this: - lemmy-ui uses infernojs, which is based on the react
model. IMO is largely superseded by signal-based reactivity in use in android
jetpack-compose, SolidJS, and most new UI frameworks. - I had to hack on
isomorphic support / server-side-rendering to infernoJS, and it’s very messy.
Leptos has isomorphic support out of the box. - All the benefits of Rust over
javascript. - Since leptos is in Rust, we can import the lemmy types directly. -
I’ve been waiting for years for a good rust UI framework, and I think we’re
finally here with leptos or sycamore. - lemmy-ui uses bootstrap, which is
showing its age and limitations. Tailwind (and daisyUI) seem to be much more
future-proof. I plan on leaving the site design and component styling to other,
more skilled UI devs, while I work mostly on the auth, services, params, and
overall back-end structure. - Please use daisyUI classes tho whenever possible
over exhaustive tailwind ones. - I’d also like it if the UI could match that of
jerboa’s (whenever possible), so that a change in one could be represented in
the other, and so that things like badge appearance for admins, could be
recognizeable across lemmy’s front ends. You don’t really need to learn rust to
help out with this, as the components look very similar to JSX. Instructions for
running it are in the CONTRIBUTING.md
[https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ui-leptos/blob/main/CONTRIBUTING.md] . Feel
free to contribute! Right now only the home page, and post pages are working,
but ready to be styled.
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I’ve starting working on a lemmy front end called lemmy-ui-leptos using leptos, a Rust UI framework with isomorphic support, and tailwind + daisyUI for the component styling. This could eventually replace the frankenstein’s monster that lemmy-ui has become.
The Lemmy developers can do good things and increase net wellbeing while being complete morons. There is nothing in Lemmy’s license that says that by using their software you need to support their ideologies.
The Christian teaching of “hate the sin, love the sinner” is the best approach here. Showing support for what the lemmy devs are doing while showing how despicable are their beliefs and stating where are your differences will always work better than trying to boycott their (non-stupid-belief-related) work.
Exactly. I consider myself libertarian and I enjoy hacking on lemmy-related projects. I’ve contributed to some, and started building others. I think it’s a cool project.
I also 100% disagree with the creators ideologically. I think it’s really cringy that one of the main devs has a public set of communist/socialist essays, but that doesn’t impact me in any way. I’m a huge fan of free and open source software, and I enjoy working on lemmy projects, so I’ll continue as long as I find value in it.
The problem is giving their project support also gives them a bigger platform and more influence which could lead to more people being exposed to their beliefs or them having a bigger impact
No, one does not follow from the other, especially for open source projects. Quite the opposite: for the project to grow, it will need to attract more people. To attract more people, they will need to dial down their extremist positions. If they don’t they will end up having their project forked.
Also,
being exposed to their beliefs
Great. Let more people be exposed to their beliefs so that they can learn how stupid they are.
Eh I called them out on it, but I’d rather they be used to continue developing the code base, which can be forked if necessary. People should be smart enough to evaluate their beliefs, and if not well… something would have gotten them eventually.
The Lemmy developers can do good things and increase net wellbeing while being complete morons. There is nothing in Lemmy’s license that says that by using their software you need to support their ideologies.
The Christian teaching of “hate the sin, love the sinner” is the best approach here. Showing support for what the lemmy devs are doing while showing how despicable are their beliefs and stating where are your differences will always work better than trying to boycott their (non-stupid-belief-related) work.
Exactly. I consider myself libertarian and I enjoy hacking on lemmy-related projects. I’ve contributed to some, and started building others. I think it’s a cool project.
I also 100% disagree with the creators ideologically. I think it’s really cringy that one of the main devs has a public set of communist/socialist essays, but that doesn’t impact me in any way. I’m a huge fan of free and open source software, and I enjoy working on lemmy projects, so I’ll continue as long as I find value in it.
The problem is giving their project support also gives them a bigger platform and more influence which could lead to more people being exposed to their beliefs or them having a bigger impact
No, one does not follow from the other, especially for open source projects. Quite the opposite: for the project to grow, it will need to attract more people. To attract more people, they will need to dial down their extremist positions. If they don’t they will end up having their project forked.
Also,
Great. Let more people be exposed to their beliefs so that they can learn how stupid they are.
Why are you posting on lemmy if you don’t think we should support lemmy?
Eh I called them out on it, but I’d rather they be used to continue developing the code base, which can be forked if necessary. People should be smart enough to evaluate their beliefs, and if not well… something would have gotten them eventually.