Great, now do the Scientologist pricks that protected him for years and threatened his victims.
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You’re mixing up your “suicides”
Flo Barnett shot herself three times in the chest and once in the head with a long rifle.
Gary Webb, who exposed the crack cocaine conspiracy within the CIA shot himself twice in the head with a revolver. FWIW, Webb’s death Bay actually have been a suicide. The first shot went through his face.
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While agreed it probably was a suicide, the harassment from media et al probably drove him to it, at least partially.
On another note if you are interested in the topic, I can’t recommend Growing Up in Scientology enough on YouTube.
Aaron is an amazing educator, commentator, and satirist on the subject of Scientology. Beyond that he has one of the most genuine, yet charismatic personalities of any person on the platform. I can’t say enough good things about him, his journey, and his work with both exposing as well as freeing people from Scientology’s grip.
Growing Up in Scientology: https://youtube.com/@GrowingUpInScientology?si=7AqjhAIP4ptYDJfi
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Yeah A A Ron covers Scientology really well, cuts through the nonsence with a great deal of knowledge about the subject and does a lot to help victims of the cult. Well worth a watch.
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I wonder if those cancerous fucks will push hard on appeals.
Mafia children.
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There was a South Park episode and everything!
By the time he gets out, he’ll be That 70’s Guy.
BURN!
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Hilarious. But, probably won’t last that long in prison. Sex offender and all.
It’s not how you think. For starters not many inmates will risk adding several more years to their sentence for assaulting a sex offender. Most people in prison want to go home. He’ll be fine as long as he keeps to himself or stays with other sex offenders. Also, before someone starts their fantasies, prison rape is not common. Prison Rape Elimination Act ended most of that. The type of sex offenders who do get assaulted in prison generally ask for it. Their specific offense plays a factor but its usually because they’re annoying as hell, keep pushing boundaries with other inmates, actually it’s mostly because they push boundaries.
This REALLY varies. The majority of prisons do not tack on time for in prison fights. Unless they near kill or maim him, they’re fine whooping his ass and taking a week in the hole as that’s all they’ll get.
I will have to disagree. When you are in prison you are in the custody of the state (state or federal). If the state just knowingly allows you to be at risk by placing you in a dangerous situation then they become liable. It would then become cruel and unusual punishment. No one is sentence to continuous assaults for decades. The prison can and will be sued and it could raise a constitutional issue. If prisons just allowed whatever to happen then PREA would not be a thing.
As someone who was in prison, sex stuff is usually agreed to. Fights do happen a lot but it’s usually two people arguing or drug related. Punishments vary but it’s usually not good so people don’t want to fight unless they don’t care. People do care about extra time. Everyone stays quiet anyway. People lie all the time about why they’re in and unless you’re annoying or in people’s faces then you’re usually safe. A sex offender might get shunned or treated like shit but not all the time and they are usually separated into other sex offenders. There are also A LOT of sex offenders so they often have a place or section of their own. I saw a lot of jokes and minor threats about rape but never saw anything in person, dudes did do stuff here and there but it was voluntary. It’s not gay if you’re in prison is what was said. If it’s a high profile crime you might get some shit but you’ll probably be separated anyway.
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I mean you’re free to disagree but I was a state corrections officer for over 6 years. I’ve seen what happens.
The rape elimination act ended most of that? Conservatively, between 1986 & 2006, as many as 1M inmates were documented to have been sexually assaulted.
I think you’re projecting a bit on how you’d like to imagine prisons operate.
PREA is mostly an information gathering mechanism.
I’m not projecting anything. By law inmates cannot consent to sex so any sexual encounter is considered rape. This includes encounters between inmates and guards. Forced sexual encountered between inmates is not common anymore.
Also I do not have any experience with higher level federal facilities like Mediums or High security but I assume they are more vigilant.
They ask for it in prison? And that’s the only ones who get assaulted, or sexed… You know what this sounds like?
What I mean by the phrase, “They ask for it” is that they do things and push boundaries with other inmates that lead to the assault.
Example: I knew a guy who would always talk about his crime even after he was told to shut the fuck up about it. He was also proud of how he taught his young daughters how to give a bj. His cellies hated him, the cops hated him, most other sex offenders hated him because they wanted to move on and he wanted to stay back. He found his way into solitary.
You’d be right if they were minors - probably not in this case.
Not true at all. I won’t say it’s all Hollywood bullshit, but in most places not even the chomos are in danger.
he’ll be kept in solitary.
At best, Masterson would have to “pay rent” if he were in a regular prison, but honestly he’ll likely go to a rich white person prison where none of that applies. A prisoner would only get killed if he were a child molester.
Can you show me any actual evidence of these facilities, I keep hearing about them but never see any actual evidence they exist
The big difference between this place and Reddit is I would have been called an idiot for not believing it at face value, and here someone just drops a link
You wouldve gotten like a bajillion down votes as well.
I’m browsing on Voyager, which looks a lot like Apollo, discussions branch out down to the right. On reddit the further down and right you went in any given thread it was always mudslinging and downvotes, here it seems to be a lot more people actually talking to each other
How is this special (cushy) prison for rich and famous run by the federal govt justified? Do they try ?
I assume they’re talking about white collar prisons which a sex offender would not be going to AFAIK. If they’re just talking about some secret rich white people prison where violent offenders go when they have money, there isn’t one. Rich people get off if their richness helps enough.
Turns out red was right all along.
Wooops I guess he’s not rich enough to pay off judges and prosecutors. Sucks to suck.
Scientology couldn’t even save him?
I bet if it was Tom Cruise they would have done more.
We’re clearly seeing some break from the trend of rich and famous people seeing no consequences for being awful.
…creebspy and rapey Kelly, rapestien… it’s been a bit more than a minute now. Sad that it took a whole movement to get the ball rolling though
Nothing came out of the rammstein case. It was concluded that the statements given were false by the Berlin public prosecutors office.
To be fair, I think that is one of those cases where someone says something about something happening, and a whole bunch of people hop on a bandwagon saying the same thing to try and get something out of it. I mean some of the shit they were saying was straight up satirical, the “Suck Box”? Give me a break now.
Lynn even made it a point that Lindemann did not rape her, and then a bunch of women came out and said that he did but never testified against him in one of the safest countries on the planet to do so. The only thing I think is suspicious on rammsteins’ behalf is that they distanced themselves from Makeeva, but perhaps she was spreading rumors about her role with the band? Who knows.
Well for one: I said rapestein. Not rammstein.
And ….
the safest countries on the planet to do soLol how do you out yourself as a misogynistic fuckface mansplaining shit they don’t actually understand without just saying it? Say this bullshit right here.
It’s pretty obvious who you were talking about buddy, don’t play stupid fucking games with me, we aren’t children.
And wow, you’re going to assume that I’m all of those things because I mentioned that Germany takes rape VERY seriously and if allegations are true (they have very invasive investigative procedures), then they should have persued it because justice will absolutely be served? You are an actual piece of shit.
I refuse to further this conversation. You should take time to think about what you said to another human being. You are so fucking rabid that you called me those things when I even presented potential evidence AGAINST them, just that the evidence for them heavily outweighs everything else. You have absolutely no idea what my views are and you automatically assumed I’m one of the worst kinds of people imagineable.
There’s definitely not another actual human being on the other side of that screen, other people definitely don’t matter and don’t have feelings just because you can’t see them.
Shame on you.
For a couple years now, yeah
It’s not that rich people are treated incorrectly, it’s that average people are treated too harshly. Rich people get what everyone should get: A way to defend themselves.
Man, I love That 70s Show, but so much fuckery and creepy shit happened during production. The irony being that this guy could have had any woman he wanted without assaulting them. He was the “cool funny” one on the show. Fucking gross piece of shit.
Idk about any woman he wanted. There are plenty of people who were never attracted to him, and he may be dysfunctional in a way that draws him to those people.
No one can ever have anyone they want. There will always be someone that says no, and if you don’t have the maturity to accept that and let go of your sense of entitlement you might wind up turning into a predator like Masterson.
have you ever heard the term " a figure of speech" pretty sure that’s what op meant
Yea, I know. But they used the figure of speech in a fairly absolute way that I disagree with.
Being hot and wanted doesn’t make a person any less likely to be a predator.
The juxtaposition of “anyone he wants without raping them” against “sentenced to 30 years for rape” has a pretty clear contextual implication that you intentionally ignored.
Feel free to point out where that was referenced in the comment I was replying to.
I didn’t ignore it, it wasn’t relevant.
It’s literally the title of the post my dude.
That was said in response to the context of Danny Masterson being sentenced to jail for rape.
It is relevant, and you are choosing to die on the hill of pedantry on a point no one but you is actually asserting. You choose to take a figure of speech, that was a juxtaposition of the title of the article and apply an absolute. It doesn’t read that easy to anyone who isn’t making a choice to omit the context.
I was going to say the same thing.
Rape is about power. Rapists aren’t interested in anyone who wants to give it to them consensually. They want to feel that they are really hurting someone, really destroying their humanity. If it doesn’t demean and permanently fuck up their victim then they want no part in it.
Now do trump.
He might be a rapist but I think even he’d draw the line at doing Trump.
Rent free. Still.
How sore are your knees?
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I’ll take that as a yes, you seem grumpy. You should pick up a nice set of knee pads, it should help you out.
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Rent free motherfucker deal with it.
Just for curiosity’s sake, what did he do to deserve 25 1/2 years before he can be eligible for parole that convicted rapist Brock Allen Turner didn’t do when he raped an unconscious woman behind a dumpster? They were both convicted in California. Why did Turner, who has been going by Allen Turner and was last seen in the Dayton, OH area, do differently such that his custodial sentence was for 6 months, roughly 2% of the custodial time that Masterson will serve?
Let me be clear that my issue here isn’t that Masterson was penalized too much. He took two women’s lives and he should spend the rest of his in prison for it. It’s just that I see two rapists, one was righteously destroyed by the justice system and the other whose court proceedings essentially made it seem like no one wanted to punish him at all but they very reluctantly felt like they had to.
If we look at it from a pragmatic point of view, the answer is time I believe, the Brock turner case was quite a few years ago, when the laws and public opinion were still in quite a mysogynistic place, the Danny Masterson case was settled today and I believe opened after the metoo movements, where public opinion was shifting more favourably towards the victims. Its wild to see this amount of progress this quickly but I think were starting to see a change for the better overall, same as to how we saw better changes to views of homophobia in the early 2000’s from the 90’s, where it was “fashionable” to call everything gay in a derogatory way. Also if I recall, brocks dad was involved heavily in the trial if that counts for anything
I think it was the fear that got put into other judges by the recall of the judge that oversaw the Turner debacle. He was removed from the bench by outraged voters, as is right and good.
I have no idea about this case, but there’s a big difference between restorative (which is tentatively being trialed in many places) and a more traditional retributive justice system.
The first seeks the victims input and attempts to compensate the community effected. Retributive justice uses a more nebusous sense of what’s right/deserved and what’s wrong/unjust.
Pros and cons to both approaches. It’s still debatable which one is better at rehabilitation. But our current system doesn’t seem to place a high priority on that anyways.
This isn’t a case where a different theory of justice was being experimented with. In this case, the rich white man going to the prestigious, expensive ivy league school was given 6 months for raping an unconscious woman behind a dumpster because, among other reasons, a stiffer sentence would have negatively impacted his career as a competitive swimmer. The judge who sentenced Turner to only 6 months for raping an unconscious woman behind a dumpster had also presided over a case where an underage girl was gang-raped, also while unconscious. He allowed to be entered into evidence photos of her at a party a year after she was raped as evidence that she did not suffer from PTSD after being gang raped by a baseball team. It’s hard to imagine anything other than that this judge was a proponent of rape and did his best to protect rapists from any sort of punishment at all, but when absolutely forced to render some sort of sentence he punished rapists as little as possible.
He finally got what he deserved. Let’s just hope that he can’t hurt anyone ever again.
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WisconsinIncarceration!I feel like the church 9f scientology should be held accountable here as well as they tried to hush the women.
I feel like Masterton must have been behind in his Scientology dues for this to happen at all
I believe the song “incurably innocent” by At The Drive-In is about this piece of shit. He sexually assaulted Cedric’s wife.
Bastard is better behind bars.
Has Ashton said anything new yet? The guy built a reputation for defending victims of abuse, but when they’re his buddy Danny’s victims he suddenly has no comment and continued to hang out with him until he was jailed. Every person that was arrested with the help of Ashton Kutcher was automatically called guilty by him without trial, but when his friend rapes people he’s all “I just can’t know”. I lost all my respect for him for refusing to ditch an obvious rapist
I mean, does it really matter? I don’t follow the situation, but his lack of opinion on this matter can be a blight on his reputation but it doesn’t change what he did for other victims.
Besides, who cares about a celebrity’s opinion anyway?
I don’t care about celebrities’ opinions. But in this day and age, those fuckers are listened to by impressionable people who have 24/7 access to their voices.
Well, clearly you do care about Ashton Kutcher’s opinion if you are asking about it.
And that is why it is constantly in the news. It is a lot easier to keep your mouth shut if people aren’t asking you what your thoughts on gun control are at a press junket for Fortress or whatever nonsense that was.
Personally? I like when people are given an opportunity to show their ass. But you don’t get to pretend you are above it all when you are looking for that hot goss.
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Where did I say that I ask for Ashton Kutcher’s opinion? You missed the point I was trying to make. I don’t care about what celebrities have to say, and I wish other people didn’t either, because unfortunately when they say dangerous things, then it spreads like fire. Case in point: celebrity antivaxxers and covid deniers.
I would say here, it matters.
Because of his work with Thorn: Digital Defenders of Children. This doesn’t just hurt his reputation, but very specifically because of the nature of the foundation, could hurt it too. Hopefully it doesn’t, but I’d be surprised if there wasn’t something
Only when they have something interesting to say.
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I feel sorry for his castmates. I’m sure they were counting on decades of reruns and residual checks.
I mean it sucks that it’s a missed money opportunity, (who wouldn’t love to coast on prior work they’ve done?) but a lot of the actors and actresses turned out just fine monetarily speaking idk. They’ll be alright.
I really only feel sorry for the people he raped and the people who have to handle these types of cases day in and day out.
Fuck 'em?
Kunis and Kutcher are “A-List” celebrities and have been for decades. Prepon and Topher have gotten quite a few roles over the years. Wilmer was on NCIS, I guess. And Kurtwood Smith and Debra Jo Rupp were legends even before the show. If FX stops showing reruns, whatever.
But also? They have had literally decades to come to terms with this. There was “talk” of this since the mid-late 00s and the case has increasingly become a thing over the years. And at least Prepon was also a scientologist and would have been aware of the cover-ups.
I’m sure they’ll manage to get by.
If they can’t, they can just get a normal job like the rest of us.
We can’t all live off of the ‘work’ we did decades ago, lol.
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First, my commnet was a bit sarcastic. Obviously, his victims have it much worse than his castmates.
Second, your proposal makes sense to me. On the other hand, I can see why the stations wouldn’t want the show on the air.
Can’t Hyde from that.
