• squron@lemmy.world
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    19 days ago

    Not sure why you are being downvoted into oblivion. What you are saying is very true, but where we disagree is that roads are the only solution. Last night, I was looking at a short trip l need to make this weekend (here in the US): 14 min by car, 58 min by rail (with a 20 min walk to get to the station), 1h20 by bus. We brought that on ourselves, we’ve made it so that cars are the only viable option - but better public transit for example would make things a lot better, for a lot of people.

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      19 days ago

      That’s pretty normal for this sub, to be honest. I’m fine with it, because at least the mods aren’t deleting comments they don’t like; they let people downvote instead. All in all while I would say I disagree with this community in many ways, I respect its followers and its mods to a higher degree than I do other communities. It allows discourse whereas others often don’t. I actually applaud the restraint of the mods here, because it’s easy to just delete opinions you don’t agree with when that button is available.

      The actual followers of the community – Herd animals are gonna herd animal. Lots of people just want to be told that their opinions are correct; not everyone actually wants to debate the merits of their viewpoints.

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          19 days ago

          If that’s how you read that, you need better reading comprehension. It’s pretty well known that being presented with an argument, even one that you might agree with – but seeing that everyone downvoted it, is more likely to get you to downvote it as well. Everyone does it, it’s a relic of humanity’s evolution. I was not insulting those who disagreed with me. 🤓indeed. But hey, when everyone online has been trained to be the victim over everything, that’s kinda the response I figured I’d get from someone.

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            18 days ago

            If that’s how you read that, you need better reading comprehension

            Motherfucker, you SAID IT. You said “as for the followers of this sub, herd animals gonna herd animal”.

            Own your argument you disingenuous dicksplash.

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              18 days ago

              Damn if it being spelled out still doesn’t allow you to get it, I don’t know what else to say.

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            18 days ago

            You literally called us herd animals and they you hit us with the “if that’s how you want to read that”???

            Also, your position is severely lacking. Please try to factor in the total emissions from car tires and the impact that has on public health. Next facture in the obesity epidemic which directly correlates with car dependency. Also, please consider that we have created a world where people drive to a gym to run on a treadmill because it isn’t safe for them to exercise outside. That one is harder to put a number on but it is extremely dystopian.

            So if you want all your organs polluted with microplastics from car tire dust and you fully support the depression, loneliness, and obesity epidemics, then keep defending car dependency because that is hidden cost of cars that people don’t talk about nearly enough.