I feel that Yaml sucks. I understand the need for such markup language but I think it sucks. Somehow it’s clunky to use. Can you explain why?

  • Windex007@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Any language in which whitespace has syntactic value is intrinsically flawed.

    Can’t speak to your specific issues, but that’s why yaml will always suck.

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      2 months ago

      As a serialization format, agree 100%, but would Python really be better if it switched to braces?

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        2 months ago

        Yes, I think so. The downside with Python comes when refactoring the code. There’s always this double checking if the code is correctly indented after the refactor. Sometimes small mistakes creep in.

        It’s really hard to tell when Python code is incorrectly indented. It’s often still valid Python code, but you can’t tell if it’s wrong unless you know the intention of the code.

        In order languages it’s always obvious when code is incorrectly indented. There’s no ambiguity.

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      2 months ago

      Haskell supports both semantic whitespace and explicit delimiters, and somehow almost everybody that uses the language disagrees with you.

      But anyway, for all the problems of YAML, this one isn’t even relevant enough to point out. Even if you agree it’s a problem. (And I agree that the YAML semantic whitespace is horrible.) If YAML was a much better language, it would be worth arguing whether semantic whitespace breaks it or not.

    • AdamBomb@lemmy.sdf.org
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      2 months ago

      Not any language. I code professionally in F# which has semantic whitespace and it has literally never been an issue for me or my team. In contrast to Python, it’s a compiled language and the compiler is quite strict, so that probably helps.