• HexesofVexes@lemmy.world
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    5 days ago

    We won’t have kids because, despite doing everything right, despite working hard, we’re struggling with finances. Kids wouldn’t be affordable without an extra job, and most of work two already!

      • Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz
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        5 days ago

        I have some kids and it’s incredibly bittersweet listening to them talk about the little art and music they create. They talk about painting pictures and making songs, being able to live in a nice house while doing that for a living.

        Nope, have to be STEM, a nurse, a teacher, or learn a trade, kiddo. All those other degrees are fucking worthless and won’t get you a decent job.

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                For starting pay? The teachers on every district around me make 75k+ a year once they finish five years and get their required master’s. When they get their masters +40 looking at low six figures.

                I don’t even live in a big city. People need to look at the entire pay scale and not just that first year.

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    6 days ago

    Also, *gestures wildly around themself* look at the state the world is in. Which sane person would want to bring a child into this fucked up world?

  • Hannes@feddit.org
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    6 days ago

    For me it’s the climate - no point in bringing a child in a world with a society that will inevitably collapse and a possible world war over land that’s still inhabitable.

    Adoption maybe - but for me more children only equal more future suffering - and if not for my children because it’ll be somehow possible to shield them from the worst then for a couple of others that have to suffer in exchange when western countries pull up the drawbridge and let the global south deal with the mess they made for those countries…

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    5 days ago

    When we grew up wondering how we would address overpopulation, impoverishment wasn’t something we had in mind.

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      5 days ago

      If it gets bad enough, birth rates will go up. Developed countries typically have lower birth rates than undeveloped countries.

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        Developed countries typically have lower birth rates than undeveloped countries.

        That is more to do with education and women’s liberation (including contraception), than finances. Which I suspect is still the predominant reason that birth rates are dropping, with finances just a secondary reason.

  • Fleppensteyn@feddit.nl
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    6 days ago

    Many people my age have terrible boomer parents who just had kids because “that’s just what you do”. They didn’t even consider you could just not make babies.

    Maybe we just think more for ourselves than the older generation.

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        Yep. My parents let me know why a burden my existence was at all possible times. They would leave me and my brother home alone (aged 8 and 5) after until bedtime. I have no idea what they were doing because work ended three hours ago. We lived off ritz crackers and easy to make food.

        The teachers would tell us to shut up and be grateful we had a home when we talked about being hungry. Back in the 80’s you didn’t get free/reduced lunches. You were just a kid who forgot their lunch money for the 100th day in a row because you are a stupid piece of shit.

        The 80’s were wild. No idea how Boomers got away with so much child abuse.

  • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    Boomers: have more kids! we need the workforce

    Boomers: all those taxes that made our families possible - nah fuck that. Keep the minimum wage locked for 15 years.