Gradually we’ve been seeing the tv and movies or shows and movies communities pick up activity, which is good, and the multiple games communities each seem to be doing okay too.

Entertainment

However, there remains kind of an awkward spot where there’s not exactly a general entertainment community (outside of Beehaw, that is) from what I can tell. There is an existing community, !entertainment@lemm.ee, though that someone could try to pick up and make active.

This could serve as a catchall for some of the more business-oriented news and some of the fluff celebrity chatter, depending on how one wants to go with it. Worth noting for celebrity chatter there is also !popculturechat@sh.itjust.works though.

Music

In a similar vein, while there’s a variety of music communities, there’s only a few generic ones, with the largest outside of Beehaw and Hexbear being the largely undefined Music community on Lemmy World. The lack of definition, that is, no sidebar guidance on what the community may be used for, makes it unclear what the community’s expectations/preferences for posts are.

As with entertainment, this could be where more music business news could find its home, alongside some band chatter. Although as with entertainment, there’s a music-themed community for the chatter to be found at !popheads@poptalk.scrubbles.tech for those interested.

Sports

Likewise with sports, there’s a ton of different sports communities, but only two large generic communities to be found on Beehaw and Hexbear (supposing Lemmyverse is accurate). Before any of the more specific sports communities can gain more activity, I think it’d help to have a generic sports community to help people get oriented and find likeminded folks to form whatever specific communities they’d like.

Much like the first two, this could be for sports news and chatter…But unlike the first two, I can’t find any generic fluff sports star/team chat communities.

Ideas on How and Where to Organize

In each of these cases regarding broader communities, I think following a similar organizational approach to Beehaw could be a good idea, but they would be better suited to instances more openly federated and not at as much risk of defederation. A few Lemmy instances that come to mind for this are Lemmee, ShitJustWorks, Lemmy Zip, and perhaps Reddthat?

I’m not sure where Mbin instances are in terms of federation smoothness and stability, otherwise I might suggest some of them. On a different note, if there were more Piefed instances I might suggest them, but last I checked the flagship seems to still be the largest and isn’t open for community creation.

In short: there’s good opportunities for broad, generic topic communities for entertainment, music, and sports on more widely federated instances. At the same time, even where these communities may exist on some widely federated instances, opportunity remains for more clearly defined variations of these communities to encourage posting with less uncertainty.

  • rglullisAEnglish
    3·
    3 months ago

    For entertainment: https://metacritics.zone

    For sports: https://athletic.center

    Both of these instances (and many others) are part of the network of topic-specific instances that I’ve created and now I’m looking to find a way to share with other admins.

    The only problem at the moment is that I’m the only with access to these instances, but if you want to create new communities I can give you an account on them.

    • Blaze (he/him)@feddit.orgEnglish
      21·
      3 months ago

      Surprising to see there hasn’t been any post since a month on the first one, and no post at all on the second one.

      • rglullisAEnglish
        2·
        3 months ago

        Not that surprising, considering active users around here (like you) refuse to contribute to it.

        • Blaze (he/him)@feddit.orgEnglish
          2·
          3 months ago

          I just let you another comment on the thread you opened 2 days ago. We can probably continue that discussion there.

          • rglullisAEnglish
            21·
            3 months ago

            I had written a longer response, but I realized that it is pointless to continue there or any discussion with you. Every time I address any of your concerns you came up with a new obstacle. Whenever you were asked to make any form of effort, you refused. This is not the behavior of someone who is serious about coordinating efforts.

            It feels immature, like a college student who still depends on their parent’s allowance but wants to cosplay as an independent adult.

            • Elevator7009@lemmy.worldEnglish
              4·
              3 months ago

              Not sure why you are owed Blaze’s efforts on your instances specifically, and why a “no” prompts such a negative, unflattering comparison. You might not actually believe you are entitled to his efforts, but the harsh comparison in reaction to his “no” is what makes me perceive you as feeling that way. I am really not used to people who don’t feel entitled to someone’s efforts speaking that way when they refuse.

              I appreciate and acknowledge your efforts, I know you made some software to help people find replacement communities for subreddits and to mirror content from other sites to the Fediverse but to be honest this comment leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Especially given all the posts they do make to try to contribute to the Fediverse and grow it—but at least from what I see, they do not want to take on the additional tasks of modding or administrating your instance and you find their reasons unacceptable so you make this comparison, which frankly looks like an attempt to insult them to me.

              And that unflattering comparison leaves me somewhat scared to post this comment lest I get one too, for having wrongthink, too much sympathy for someone you think I should not, insert other insults here. But I also figure I should probably speak up instead of getting in the habit of letting my fear of conflict (and lack of experience with seeing people speak harshly to me or others irl) control me especially when I feel I see something that should not have happened.

              Did Blaze tell you your communities are all trash or something? I really do not see why you are reacting so harshly.

              • rglullisAEnglish
                3·
                3 months ago

                they do not want to take on the additional tasks of modding or administrating your instance and you find their reasons unacceptable so you make this comparison

                This is not what I’ve asked. All I’ve asked was to look into the content that he was already interested in posting (e.g, tv shows and football) and to do in the communities from the topic-specific instances instead of the bigger “user” instances, and every time there was some random objection to avoid doing it.

                • You are running these alone, what if something happens to you? I have a friend who worked with me before and has the ability to take over my operations in case something happens to me.
                • This is not enough. He is not involved now Ok, so let me put these instances in some type of collective with the admins. I don’t mind to continue operating them and covering the operational costs, all I would like is to have some commitment from any type of current admin that can assuage your concerns.
                • Your domains are too expensive, admins will not be interested in paying for this. I am not asking the eventual co-owners to pay for anything.

                The excuses are getting more and more ridiculous. It actually got to the point where the reason to avoid joining the football instance is because of the domain name having “soccer” instead of “football”, but at the same time saying “please don’t buy a football domain”.

                The funny thing is, I wouldn’t mind at all if he came out and said “no, I don’t want to help you”, even if there was no particular reason for it. The unbearably annoying thing was this concern trolling, this constant “Oh, I don’t mind helping, but only after X”.

                • Elevator7009@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  2·
                  3 months ago

                  Thanks for addressing my concern. With this additional context it looks like he’s trying to refuse without being straightforward about it (from my end). Although I get it is a tactic to try to be nice instead of hurtful, it often just leads to more hurt, especially when people take the action to do “X” and they still get a “no”. Wasted effort trying to convert a “no” to a “yes” that could never be converted, and probably inadvertently pissing off someone who wishes you would just take a hint when you understandably take them at face value because some people do legitimately say “no, for X reason” and could be converted to a “yes” when X is addressed. It would be better for all parties to be straightforward. As someone who cares a lot about being nice and protecting peoples’ feelings, it is, in fact, very possible to be straightforward and honest without being rude or hurtful.

            • AchtungDrempels@lemmy.worldEnglish
              2·
              3 months ago

              The serious efforts I see you do is using this community pretty much solely to promote your own instances. If I was a mod here I’d ban your ass for non stop self promotion :)

              Personally, like mentioned before, I won’t touch any instances that you run.

              • rglullisAEnglish
                2·
                3 months ago

                I am offering the instances to the wider community, precisely so that they are not “mine”.

                The easiest way to get me to quit the “self promotion” is quite simple: step up and start putting actual skin in the game to build the infrastructure needed to support more people.

  • Blaze (he/him)@feddit.orgEnglish
    3·
    3 months ago

    Hello,

    Thank you for your post, it’s interesting. I indeed like Beehaw’s communities, as I said in a previous post: https://lemmy.world/post/14728410

    However, I guess for some of those topics, we went beyond it. For entertainment for instance, based on the posts since last month, !entertainment@beehaw.org is either about movies or TV shows, which we have now covered, as you mentioned. Business news are usually posted on them too, and it seems to be okay.

    By the way, we are looking for mods on !showsandmovies@lemm.ee, if you are interested, let me know!

    For !music@lemmy.world, seems like the only active mod is happy with the current status. Maybe you can reach out to them to see if it would be possible to have more defined rules and guidelines, and what they want to do with the community?

    Sport is an interesting topic. There was !olympics@sh.itjust.works during the Olympics, and most of the stuff happened there. For a more generic sport community, I’m not sure it would be the best once there is enough traction. We now have a few people on !football@lemmy.world, but I guess that would become spammy if we were to have match threads on a generic sport community for people who don’t care about the sports.

    I also feel like star/team chats are mostly sport dependent. I live in Europe, I could not for the life of me name 3 top NFL or NBA athletes, I guess it must be the same for US people and European football. And as above, we also post athlete news on the sport community, and it seems to get good reception.

    !popculturechat@sh.itjustworks seems promising, maybe there will be other people interested in getting that one revived? The only mod hasn’t been active since a year.