Context; So… Just bought a brand new TV and life is good, but I should have done more research before buying it. I primarily want to use PLEX for watching media on the TV. However, due to “smart TV’s” not being smart and being rather slow because most current TV operating systems are either bloated or just riddled with ads.
Question; So Plex is there, but it runs very poorly. What are the best options out there to get this running smoothly? Are the only options AppleTV and Amazon Firestick? Anyone been in this boat before that have any tips-n-tricks to share?
Ps. I hate ads, so the Firestick is of off the charts.
Much appreciated
Running Jellyfin through a Roku works wonderfully. Jellyfin is a FOSS alternative to Plex and ran great on Roku, but ran poorly on Firestick, so it might just a Roku vs Firestick thing there.
Something else to consider is just buying a really cheap laptop for less than $200 or something and running Plex/Jellyfin or even just use your home network and play everything through VLC via HDMI on the laptop. You could even get a Chromebook and run Ubuntu on it and find an option for close to $100. A laptop option works well because you get to bypass ads and TVs operating system.
Jellyfin is great
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I didn’t disregard the question. Plex and Jellyfin do the exact same thing and I described how to run them.
I also mentioned overall alternatives to his issue which is streaming his own content.
Having an option where I can later down the line turn over to Jellyfin is only good. I will convert eventually - just not right now :P Thanks for your insights!
Personally, I like having a full fledged PC connected to my TV. Currently I’m using a Beelink T4 running Ubuntu. The PC is under my direct administrative control, so no surprises with ads or other things.
Power consumption may be slightly higher than an NVIDIA Shield or Roku, but at 24w at full tilt for the Beelink it cannot be that much more.
The same Beelink machine comes with Windows 10 as well, if you’d rather have Windows.
That would work for plex. But if one also wants Disney Plus, Netflix or Prime, that wont work (or with really limited quality)
If you need 4k, then I can see your point. My TV is 1080P, so the browser works just fine.
None of these services provide 1080P through a browser. Netflix can be hacked todo so with a different use agent and does play up to 4k on MS Edge on some windows Laptops, but other then that its 480p or 720p, depending on service.
What do you run in Ubuntu for your content display? I currently run Rokus to access my Jellyfin server but have plenty of unused PC hardware which could replace the Roku.
I haven’t found any family friendly (read: idiot proof) way to make the PC as easy to use as the Roku.
Not who you asked but I rub my jellyfin server in the browser on my media box. If yiy cab click on the link saved on the desktop you cab access the server
I do the same as averyfalken, just run everything in the browser.
No you won’t get 4k, but it does work for 1080P. You can run the Plex client on PC for 4k media.
I have nvidia shields in basically every room of my house
Those things are incredibly expensive, I don’t think I could even afford one of them.
What makes them worth the extra money compared to say, a raspberry pi? I’m assuming Nvidia shield runs some version of Linux and is just as compatible with all the various packages and services you might want to run on a media device (such as a Plex server for starters of course), but what can it do that the pi came, to justify it’s more than double the cost?
Ai upscaling, more ram, android so you can sideload apps, game streaming
Pi 4s come in 4 and 8gb ram varients (both being more than the shield), can run android, and are more than cabable of game streaming. Ai Upscaling is gross, imo. Additionally for the price of an nvidia shield you could get the new Pi 5 with a better cpu and more i/o
I love my shields 🤷, out of the box I don’t have to do really anything like install an os etc
Also has ads
I run an Apple TV, but jeep tire shield got the home theater
I’m a fan of the Apple TV because I’m in the ecosystem. Plex works just fine for me there. And I love that my Apple TVs don’t seem to rot out as fast as Android or Google TV boxes I’ve used in the past.
That being said, someone else mentioned the Onn box, and that thing seems to have pretty solid value. I’d start there, too, if I was trying something non-Apple.
Having been through several generations of Apple TV, I second this option. They’ve always been pretty great to me with regards to running Plex.
Oh man, I just had the memory pop in of using Plex on my AppleTV 2 — had to use a side-by-side python script running on the Plex server to make it work. My, how far we’ve come!
Wow, never had that one. My first was an ATV HD, and that was great, as well as its successors.
I assume you are talking about the Plex client or the server too? Client wise, the shield is still excellent as other folks have mentioned but I have been using Apple TVs lately, the client is snappy and works well. I have one of the first gen 4k ones and it plays everything I have tried to play. I got tired of the adds on the android devices and the Rokus have even gotten annoying lately so that’s what prompted me to switch.
ETA: in case someone is wondering, I also use the Home Assistant integration with my Apple TVs and it is superb.
I will always recommend the Nvidia Shield. It works significantly better than any other streaming device I have or have used. You can also host your Plex server on it directly if that’s a use case you’re interested in.
Any Android TV device is going to have ads on the launcher now because Google sucks, but you can just install a third party launcher and set it as the default to get around that.
Shield fan as well, but “will always recommend” is pretty strong wording considering it’s pretty much an abandoned product from Nvidia’s perspective. I don’t know that it will be very future proof, but for now it’s great for running plex as a server or otherwise and although it hasn’t been updated in many years, the upscaling algorithm to bump 1080 to 4k remains unparalleled.
I mean sure, I’ll recommend them for as long as they continue to work, but I’m still using the first model I bought back in 2015 and the only issue I have with it is needing to reboot it once every few months because it’ll stop connecting over Ethernet.
Huh, I have 2019 and that issue is still not fixed 🙁
i love my rokus. they can run plex and jellyfin without a hitch
Second this, yes advertisements, but Roku doesn’t like auto play videos and shit, solid little devices.
So… People are saying apple tv, but if you hate ads, and also watch YouTube, then this is not the way. If you go with something androidTV based, you can side load smarttube plus, which not only will block ads without YouTube premium, but it also has sponsor block built in, which will skip sponsored sections in videos.
I use a nvidia shield since it supports the widest range of direct play standards (h265, Dolby atmos, hdr10 / Dolby vision, support for refresh rate and output resolution switching, so on)
There’s tons of other androidTV based boxes to go with, but thats what my research ~3 years ago brought me to get, and ive been pretty happy with them. The only con is that it doesn’t like Ethernet cables that dont have a metal shielding on the rj45 connector. Not sure why, but yeah
Here is a greatbarticle on how to build your own streaming box with Kodi and a raspberry pi. You could also use a playstation or xbox.
I use Plex on my PS4. It runs great!
If you have a XBox you could try Jellyfin as there are apps that run pretty well on it. There’s also an Android app so you could grab a $50 TV box from AliExpress and do it that way too. It’ll also work via a web browser.
Jellyfin is also open source with no subscription fees for advanced features nor all the bloat that’s tacked onto Plex as well. It’s got a clean interface that I quite like too. It can take a little more work to get running though.
Also, the reason it’s running poorly is likely because Plex has no hardware encoding at all unless you pay for it. When I tested it there was a huge difference for me in playback smoothness with it.
Would Kodi be an option?
I might look into Kodi instead, seriously dissapointed with plex running so poorly
Kodi can run on a raspberry pi and has a Plex app. I use local media and jellyfin so I can’t testify how good it is
Same situation, got a 4k Roku and it’s been an absolute godsend for 3rd party apps!
So yeah, my vote is for a 4k Roku, I think they’re a lot cheaper than an Nvidia Shield as well.
With a pihole you can block all ads and tracking on the Roku, too. I’ve got five of them and they’re all in a special group to limit tracking, and they all primarily run Plex
I will always recommend buying or building a small home theater PC (htpc). Then you get a wireless keyboard with a connected track pad and you are set.
If you are more tech savvy, you can save money and recycle by simply installing Linux on an old laptop/pc that you are not using and plugging it into your monitor.
You could try one of these.
onn. Google TV 4K Streaming Box (New, 2023), 4K UHD resolution https://www.walmart.com/ip/2835618394
No thanks: https://killedbygoogle.com
$20 for what seems to be a good streaming device ain’t bad, but I can understand where you’re coming from.
Buddy, I’ve still got an original Chromecast I use daily.
Ditto. Got the 1st gen usb style, the 2nd gen puck, and the last ultra that came out before they had a full on OS and remote controls and shit. All 3 of em in use daily to this day.
These are surprisingly decent. I have the non 4k one from a few years ago and even that is faster than smart tvs I’ve used.
Have the 4k one, works great light years faster than the TV os for everything
