• BrioxorMorbide@lemm.ee
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    2 months ago

    I just have no idea what these people who think Harris is a bad idea for Palestinians are actually thinking. And really, I don’t think they are thinking at all.

    They live in cloud cuckoo land where Biden/Harris can just tell Netanyahu “Fuck off and shove a grenade up your arse, you genocidal maniac” and that would actually work.

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      They believe in Schrodinger’s Jew: that Jews simultaneously control US politics and that US Presidents control Israel.

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          Must be awesome to live such a privileged life that that’s the only thing you have to care about in this election cycle.

          Women’s healthcare issues? LGBTQ rights? Interracial marriages? The US economy? The environment? Kids’ lives? Nah, you only care about Palestinian people. Well done you! Golf claps for you.

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              I pity you, dude, if that’s truly what you took away from that.

              I’m 100% against all of the genocides happening in the world today. But I also know that Trump will not give you peace.

              Any of the right wing politicians, whether that’s trump, orban, putin, wilders, etc, only care about themselves and their kind of white people. They’d drop bombs on Palestine and Ukraine themselves, if it would help their career further. That’s the alternative. I’m pretty sure you don’t want that at all, right?

              (also, I’m not American)

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      Most of Israel’s weapons come from the US. It’s very well possible for the US congress/government to say “no more weapons if you use them for agression”.

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        Biden tried just slowing weapon shipments earlier on and Rs and some Ds rammed a bill through saying nope, no slowdowns on these shipments allowed.

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          Biden tried just slowing weapon shipments earlier on and Rs and some Ds rammed a bill through saying nope, no slowdowns on these shipments allowed.

          When you have a racist right-wing party, and a right-wing party that supports killing innocents, I am not as enthused to vote as I would be if there were a clear choice between them.

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                You said there is no clear choice between. A party that supports killing innocents and racism. And a party that supports killing innocents. It’s not hard math.

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                  Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t there more dead on the Gaza side? What’s the math of that?

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                I mean, if both are killing innocents, but one is killing innocents on top of being racist, it’s pretty obvious that the racist one is worse. A kindergartener could check that math.

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                  It’s interesting how you have to resort to being dismissive when I say that I don’t like seeing innocents killed.

                  You say you’re voting for ‘harm reduction’. But, factually, supporting Israel is increasing harm, not reducing it. You might be upset with me because you’re rationalising painful reality.

                  I have no choice, due to autism, but to accept reality for what it is. And it’s not nice, because living in a world where it is politically expedient to support killing innocent people sucks. I want nothing to do with it, and I would swap with someone in Palestine so that I could die, instead.

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                    That’s what this entire post is about. You’re accomplishing jack shit by not voting.

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            It’s more like a racist right-wing party that supports killing innocents, and a right-wing party that supports killing innocents.

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              You’re right, I just thought “racist” implied “supports killing”, as I am aware of the history and practice of racism.

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          wow you just ignore that biden wanted to give them the weapons anyways. you see its a little thing called providing cover. Biden didn’t fight against it because he wanted to give isreal the weapons.

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            That bill went through with a veto-proof majority of all Rs and enough Dems.

            Biden is a zionist, however, he’s also a politician who understands that the genocide was not and is not super favorable domestically. It’s also not a good look for the ceasefire negotiations to be as unsuccessful as they’ve been. If the opposition wasnt the orange turd this election could have easily gone R just like Reagan v Carter with Iranian hostage crisis.

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              oh wow! a veto proof majority! its too bad biden controls the military and can just know you. not ship them. invoke leahy. etc.

              biden has no one to blame but himself for gaza. go read the article of the israel/gaza timelines. there was no need for whats happening to happen. biden just had to… not ship weapons. he had all the legal cover he could have possibly wanted if his goal was to end the genocide.

              It’s also not a good look for the ceasefire negotiations to be as unsuccessful as they’ve been

              lol. they have not even happened. bibi has 0 interest in a ceasefire. the biden admin knows this. if they don’t then we definitely need to get rid of them all.

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        Nooooo!!! Anything other than perfect support at all times for everything Netanyahu does is Trump support from Russia! Every lemmy genocide supporter says so!