I like this approach. “funny meme” aside, I think it is a good way of showing how much a certain language can affect how other people think and feel about a subject. Just read it THAT way and “being neurotypical” suddenly sounds like a disorder that isn’t fully compatible with the public, doesn’t it?
We live in a world that isn’t exactly kind to people on the spectrum. It is loud, flashy, hectic, overwhelming, unrewarding but you’re still expected to work like a cog in a machine, despite having fewer and fewer places where you’d actually “fit in” without grinding gears, and whenever there is some sort of public talk about that topic, it always, always sounds like the affected person is the problem and personally responsible for fixing themselves, when a no small part of “not fitting in” is due to society itself. Maybe a change in language is due to remove that stigma.
Points 2 and 5 are waaaay off but the rest are pretty funny.
Point 2 is literally the definition of ND folk who get ankle deep in a new hobby then abandon it when their interest passes.
Point 5… I’d wager the vast majority of ND people blow at math. They also absolutely suck at seeing patterns you aren’t hyper focusing on lol. It’s literally baked into the diagnoses of ADHD comorbidities.
Is “blow” the opposite of “suck” or of similar meaning in this context?
Correct.
Wonderful, thank you ^^
“Your interests are shallow” → “You aren’t interested in things for their intrinsic use value, but for their exchange value in forming social bonds with other neurotypicals who have imprinted on the same token (TV show, political party, sports team, etc.) Talking about these interests is not primarily an exchange of information, but rather a grooming behaviour, like chimpanzees picking lice out of each other’s coats, only done with language “
Stop, stop! they’re already dead!
Lmao what a shit take.
Lmao what a shit take.
Great summary of every comment you’ve made in this thread.
Every time you avoid small talk you get a lovely sticker
Germans: I have so many stickers!
Finns: crushed by weight of stickers, nobody calling for help
I mean yeah if I described autism using a bunch of statements that absolutely do not define autism, then it would sound dumb and bad. OP is acting like this is a list of neurotypical behaviors when it’s actually just an inverted list of neurodivergent behaviors. Neurotypicality is not the reciprocal of neurodivergence.
wait the number pattern thing is autism? I’m sorry, I have ADHD and the ADHD doctor also told me I’m probably on the spectrum. wow I love number pattern stuff though, I didn’t know it was associated.
I got 81 as a table number the other day and I was stoked because it’s 3^4. on reflection the doctor was probably right.
ADHD and autism are commonly comorbid.
Got any strong opinions on trains or planes
I mean I fucking love planes but less particular models and more that I’m still blown away they work at all. I love sitting on them and thinking about all the engineering.
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the doctor said that while it was very likely, it was unlikely getting a formal diagnosis would open up any additional treatment avenues.
it’s funny finding stuff like this though, it feels very right.
I’ll look up asd1, thanks!
Allistic, weird.
I’m beginning to get the impression that people with autism reaaaally don’t like people witbout autism.
I’m married to one. They don’t dislike people without autism. They just don’t like the social norms and expectations that cause them harm.
This is a venting post. I don’t think anyone is interested in harming non autistic people.
Hey, I love neurotypicals, they’re great, hell one of my freinds younger brother has neurotypicalism and he’s such a quirky lil goofball but he can actually behave himself most of the time too, we get along really well.
👌
There may be a sore spot after centuries of dehumanizing abuse.
Tbh because I’ve had to adapt to a neurotyp society in my own way, different from how other autistic people have had to adapt in THEIR own ways, I actually get along better with Nuerotyps better than other Autists, and no, fuck changing my terminology I dont mean Autist in a derogatory sense
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Some of those points apply tho other not-neurotypicals.
True. I think the larger point is that we have to be careful what social norms we adopt as a society to make sure we aren’t leaving a large group of people out.
I see this post as just venting and trying on a new perspective.
Neurotypicals are an important part of a full and inclusive society, but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t spend resources looking for a cure, or look into causes and ways to prevent it.
One of my exes is autistic and also had dyscalcula. Took me a while to accept that she will never enjoy math like I do. It was depressing.
“being decent at math” why would I work to be decent at something I can just bullshit my way through
You read into phrases past their actual meanings
Instead of saying what you think, you expect others to infer it based on subjective social rules
I see these as legitimately bad things that people should not do. The fact that society considers this normal is horrible!
You’d rather everyone just immediately believed everything anyone else said without any thought into the motivation or intent behind the words?
You literally just did the thing I complained about.
I mean, no, not really. What I said is still a part of what you proposed, just not specifically.
Like you can’t suggest that everyone should jump off a high cliff without also suggesting that everyone should fall to the bottom. You can’t say “I said jump, not fall! You’re reading into my words beyond my intent!”
Have you never encountered symbolism? Poetry? Is your favorite book “See Spot Run” because every statement is entirely literal with no interpretation needed?
If you read the phrase “Upon seeing the knife in the strangers hand, she let out a scream.” would you not infer that “she” is afraid of the knife person, or would you sit there scratching your head wondering “why did she scream? I don’t understand, knives can be used for many purposes.”
What I said is still a part of what you proposed, just not specifically.
Absolutely not. What you said had nothing to do with anything I said. I did not say we should “believe everything everyone says.” That’s not even a part of what I said.
You then proceeded to:
read into phrases past their actual meanings
The alternative to “reading into phrases past their actual meanings” is not to “believe everything everyone says.” It’s simply not assuming someone intended to say something completely different than what they actually said, which is what you did.
And the alternative to “expecting others to infer what you think based on subjective social rules” is to just say what you mean in the first place.
See the conflict we’re having right now? We could have avoided this if you simply didn’t read into what I said past the actual meaning.
Ah I see the confusion. You said “reading into phrases past their actual meanings” but defined that as “assuming someone intended to say something completely different than what they actually said.” This is not, in fact. “reading into phrases past their actual meanings” and is, in fact, called “assuming someone is lying”. With that cleared up, I agree with you. People should definitely stop assuming others are lying without a good reason.
This is not, in fact. “reading into phrases past their actual meanings” and is, in fact, called “assuming someone is lying”.
You just did it again!!
No, I didn’t! You have no idea what you’re even trying to say! I’m sorry but you’re just incorrect. At no point have I interpreted anything you’ve suggested to mean anything other than exactly that.
