Netflix confirms it is increasing subscription prices, again, after adding 8.8 million customers::undefined

    • FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world
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      I still get it as part of my phone plan, and hardly ever use it. They’ve conditioned me to not ever get interested in a Netflix show until there’s at least 4 seasons.

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        I get it through my phone plan for free (t-mobile) and I still cancelled my account with Netflix.

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        Even if they don’t release anything, wtf. There is a huge back catalogue of movies I want to rewatch and stuff I’ve never seen. I can’t remember a single time I searched for a classic movie I wanted to watch and found it on Netflix streaming. Those movies were often available through Netflix DVD though! Enshitification indeed.

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          I use Justwatch to figure out where films and shows are, and even then it’s grim how many aren’t available to stream, or even buy legally.

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            even then it’s grim how many aren’t available to stream, or even buy legally.

            At that point you should honestly just pirate it so that a copy continues to exist.

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              I’ve done that for my Jellyfin server, but some things are too rare and niche to be sure of results unfortunately.

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      Yeah, I thought I did. I can’t even log into Netflix as they say I don’t have an account, and yet my PayPal history is showing I’ve been paying them continuously…

      How the fuck can they charge me for an account that doesn’t exist!? I just cancelled it today through PayPal, hopefully that stops it. It’s absolutely absurd.

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      Sure did. They still email me about shit to watch. Dunno why I thought that would stop on its own.

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      Currently costs peanuts in India (have some good friends over there 🥸) and there’s no password sharing crackdown yet. Comes down to $2 per person on the highest plan. As long as this continues, I’ll stay subbed to Netflix.

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      It’s like the only one that works natively on my mom’s TV so that’s all she watches 🤷

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      Tell all your friends and family what a steaming pile of shit it is. Share memes that tell people its a waste of money. Lots of stuff do to

      • friend_of_satan@lemmy.world
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        Sure, you could do that. But it’s better to be pro-alternative than anti-whatever. Personally I’d share jellyfin or Plex with my friends and family and ask them to do the same with whatever movies they have. It’s the modern equivalent of lending somebody a DVD and a list of your DVD collection.

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          Im not sure if your pro/anti point is true. Its the whole reason ads are a billion dollar industry. To counteract it there should be anti marketing movement.

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            Great point. I’m skeptical though. If you are anti-thing-1 then there could always be thing-2. Being anti-marketing is better framed as pro-person or pro-volition or something similar. I suspect if advertising companies could not exist, media companies would force you to buy something you did not like instead of watching an ad, or in Netflix’s case they would force you to watch an episode of something you didn’t care about. This wouldn’t be advertising but would cause the ratio of watches of whatever their sponsors show was to go up. This would be similar to how Apple automatically added that U2 album to everybody’s account. It inflates that thing and causes you to digest it into your subconscious. It’s better to be pro-I-choose-what-I-watch.

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    The prices of Netflix’s $6.99 ad-supported plan and the $15.49 Standard tier remain unchanged.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if they crunched the numbers and realized adverters are desperate for a new place to show ads now that cable is basically dead.

    They’ll keep raising the prices of ad free hoping people move to the ad supported tier.

    If you’re ad free, Netflix makes the most profit when you never open it, and may even lose money if you’re always streaming something.

    On ad plans, they’ll keep making money the more people watch. There’s no “tipping point” where profits go down the more someone watches.

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      Spot on. I expect within five or six years most streaming services will have priced ad-free plans out of the average person’s budget and then they’ll drop them entirely, citing a lack of consumer demand. There’s way more money to be made through cablefication.

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        There’s way more money to be made through cablefication.

        I mean. Supposedly.

        But then again, cable is dead for a reason.

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          I mean. Supposedly.

          But then again, cable is dead for a reason.

          Yes, and the reason cable is dead is specifically because streaming offered a more affordable, convenient, and ad-free option. Now that it’s pretty much the only legal game in town and every greedy fuck out there is trying to start their own streaming service the cablefication is well underway. You think the c-suite types give a single fuck about the long-term viability of their services? lol no. They’re here for short term profits. They’ll be carried off into the sunset by their golden parachute while you’re paying $45/mo to watch commericals on Netflix.

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            You think the c-suite types give a single fuck about the long-term viability of their services? lol no

            This is the madness. It really speaks to the emptiness that underlies whatever we call the philosophy that results in this kind of decision making. Modern MBA cult? Neo-liberalism?

            Christ, stop buying businesses just to break them people.

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                You can.

                1. Buy stock for a company that prioritizes steady sustainable growth instead of chasing an ever increasing profit margin.

                2. Plan to keep that stock for decades.

                3. Buy more stock as time goes on, never stop buying that stock.

                4. Pray that a giant conglomerate doesn’t decide to buy it.

                5. If a conglomerate buys it, dump stock immediately while everyone else is buying. Then reinvest it all into a new company.

                Repeat as needed.

                It’ll help good companies, and if enough do it, conglomerates might eventually not seeing gobbling every other company up as profitable.

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              Neo-liberalism?

              The internet decreed like a decade ago that “Anything You Don’t Like Is Neoliberalism,” so why not?

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                I’m open to other words, but I don’t know what else to call it.

                Its whatever killed Sears, a company that was built on the idea of distributing a catalogue and people buying shit from it, and them having it show up at their house. Jesus christ that sounds familiar where the fuck have I heard that before?

                Its this idea that making money by taking a functional business and breaking its ability to function is some how “good business”.

                Its Horowitz and the take over of Pacific Lumber Company.

                Again, I dont know if I can call it neo-liberalism because I dont really know what that means (as in, I’m not sure there is a ‘there’ there).

                Whatever it is, its fucking idiotic.

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                  Whatever it is, its fucking idiotic

                  Never trust a political movement that renames itself constantly.

                  They likely know they can’t defend their policies, so instead they steer the argument towards what their name is.

                  If that wasn’t the case, they’d tell you what label they want to be called

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                  Neoliberalism (narrowly defined under economic terms) is the idea that minimizing government impact in markets is a good thing, and that government regulation should be designed to efficiently address externalities with as little market distortion as possible.

                  Neoliberals, for instance, were among the first advocates for single-payer healthcare in the US, as they saw the insurance market as generally one large externality ripe with perverse incentives.

                  Historically, neoliberals have ranged from Reagan/Thatcher to Bush 1/Clinton, to HRC and Obama. Republicans kind of lost the plot on neoliberalism around 1996.

                  The internet started shitting on neoliberalism right about the time Hillary Clinton trounced Bernie Sanders, which they also blamed on neoliberalism. Before then, their criticisms were mostly Reagan/thatcher specific. As neoliberalism evolved, so did the internet, because leftists need something to hate and they were the loudest people online at the time.

      • doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Not my money. Piracy is easier at this point anyway. Or God forbid I get a hobby or go outside.

        I’d seriously rather watch paint dry than watch commercials.

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    If you have more than two streaming services it now cost more than cable.

    We’ve come full circle, guys!

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      I’m not sure which streaming services you mean but cable back when I had it YEARS ago was over $120 a month. That was just the tv part, not including internet.

      I can’t think of 3 streaming services that come near that price.

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          And now my basic Internet connection from the only provider in the area (who is also the TV provider) is $100/mo

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        Yea you could really pay a lot depending on how many channels you subscribed to and especially if you had premium channels like HBO or Starz.

        I’m sure we’ll get there though.

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      Only if you’re counting YouTubeTV as one of those and even still, I remember my dad arguing with dish or direct about the $150 bill all the time over a decade ago. We switched cable providers every other year to keep the price in the low $100 range and as soon as the honeymoon period was over they would double it.

      Even YouTubeTV+Netflix+Disney+w/e is less than cable for now

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      The cost of cable where I can choose what I want to watch when I want to watch it. Whereas before I had to hope that the programming directors for the different channels picked something somewhere worth watching when I turned on the tube.

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        Now, you only have to hope whatever show you want to watch is on any of the services you are subscribed to, and won’t be pulled before you finish it.

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          Yes that’s true too. It’s still better than cable. I had access to even less content back then compared to now.

          I use this to find what I want to watch when I have something specific that I’m looking for: https://www.justwatch.com/

          I also think people should be pirates.

          But streaming, at the same cost as cable, is much better than the decades of cable I remember before streaming actually became a real competitor.

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      I am not that concerned about prices because I only ever have one subscription going at once but cancelling it Inside Job was the last drop for me. I’m not going to pay them to NOT make the shows I like.

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      Once you’ve used Stremio + a debrid service, you realise how much better everything could be. Just… the entire catalogue of shows ever made available all the time. I don’t think I can go back.

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        Does Stremio work similarly to Plex? I’ve not heard of it or debrid, going to look into it!

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          I don’t really know plex, I tried some media players like it ages ago, but Stremio just recently.

          Basically it has plugins that link it to databases of shows and their torrents, then the debrid service links those torrents to cached versions that can be downloaded from the debrid servers at high speed so you don’t have to actually wait for a torrent. I also do it behind a VPN because that can get you in trouble if you end up using a torrent.

          The only issue I’ve had is occasionally shows will get hit with copyright strikes that the debrid services will honour in order to stay in business. Usually another torrent will take their place but then you have to search for it in the list. Still better than Netflix just saying “no results” or “here are similar shows”. No, Netflix, I do not want something similar to the show I was halfway through, I want that show specifically. They may be fungible to your algorithm, but not to my heart. Fuck you, Netflix.

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      I unsubscribed when they killed account sharing and planned to subscribe just for one or two months per year to binge every show I like… but I may not subscribe again for a long time now, considering that these guys take their villain role very seriously, I mean it’s really hard to not dislike them right now. They’re like the Cersei Lannister of streaming services

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      Eh, it makes sense. Folks here are thinking about it a few steps ahead, if I don’t unsub then all the other services will do the same over time and raise prices, which negatively impacts me in the long term. Your average folks aren’t thinking that at all.