So recently a couple of my friends brought up the idea that PEAK DeMarcus Cousins was better than PEAK Dwight Howard. I pretty much watched all of DeMarcus Cousins prime in Sacramento and he was my favourite player in the NBA for a couple years, but I still cannot fathom how he compares to a player as dominant defensively and offensively like Howard.
As well, Howard led the Magic to a finals appearance in his prime. I do acknowledge that Cousins is the better passer, shooter, and post player, and that if he didn’t have to carry the offensive load as much as he did in Sacramento he could’ve been way more efficient (we got to see a preview of that in NOLA), but are these abilities enough to take him over Howard?
I was a huge Dwight fan in Houston, but unfortunately I never got to see prime Orlando D12. So could you guys please fill in some context?
NOT CAREER-WISE, STRICTLY PEAK
Boogie cousins never took his original team to the finals. Dwight should’ve been top 75, but when he left to LA his career went to shit
Dwight, anybody saying Cousins is wild, lol
Ur friends don’t know jack shit
Dwight easily
Dwight. Just definitely, definitely Dwight. Orlando Dwight was a leaner, higher-jumping version of the Shaq archetype - power player, solid touch in the post, absurd athleticism and agility for a guy his size. Man won 3 consecutive DPOYs and was probably a top 5 player on the planet in a league with LeBron in his first prime, prime Wade, and late-prime Kobe.
Dwight was a top 3 player in the world for a few solid years. This shouldnt even be a post.
Maybe like 1 year? His prime collided with Lebron, Kobe, Wade, Durant, Dirk, Duncan who were still at the top at any given time all of whom were clearly better
Peak Dwight was a problem. He actually led his team to a finals appearance.
Can someone explain to me how Demarcus Cousins has become an almost mythic figure in NBA history?
I watched his entire career, and he was always a turnover machine with mediocre efficiency.
Oof then no you didn’t . Except ecting him to shine the turd that was SAC would be impossible for any player in NBA history. Jordan, Bron, Timmy, even Wikt couldn’t get those guys to the playoffs. There was a concerted effort by the owners to tank whole seasons, dishearten the fan see so the team could move.
He had 5 coaches in 7 years and the worst of the worst; minimum wage coaches and George Karl. The one coach who was good they snaked em.
Jimmer, Tyreke, Willie Cauley Stein, all drafted. Best teammates he ever had were Rudy Gay and Rondo for one season together.
They sold a t5 pick for cash. They made commercials about being rich in the hardest hit area of America during 2008 housing crisis. They made the worst picks, traded fan favorites, insulted the fanbase, reneged on arena deals, and even sat Lakers fans in the owners seats at what was supposed to be the Kings last game in SAC.
They were never gonna win and nothing was gonna change that.
Because so many of these conversations are driven by two things:
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How does a player look in highlights.
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What does it feel like the player should be able to do.
Those two things are very different from who actually helps you win. DeMarcus looked like who the gods would build if they decided to make the perfect center. You could see highlights where you said, “Wow …” On paper he had every skill you would want a center to have.
And yet he never put it together. And people seem to forget that part.
I 100% agree with you, but tbf, he was never in a proper system where he could thrive and cover some of his deficiencies. Look at his NOLA tenure when he actually was on a decent team. Were they gonna beat the warriors? No. But they were pretty dominant, and fans still talk about that team as a what-if.
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Because he was that good an individual offensive player, that talented, whatever failures and shortcoming, you still gotta respect the raw skill. A guy like Dwight, obviously he beats out Cousins, but OP called him that dominant defensively and offensively. I have a hard time calling Dwight an offensive superstar, it was athleticism that faded, dude never improved his game on that end and became the guy crying for post touches.
children
Cousins never even made the playoffs in his prime. He put up numbers on a bad team and even when he got together with AD, they weren’t close to being a contending team.
I’ve heard the “best big man in the NBA” conversation thrown around for him, but that was honestly a stretch of years where there were no other good bigs. He doesn’t hold a candle to the actual good bigs.
Dwight all day.
Cousins was better in terms of offensive skills and refinement. Howard was just better period.
Don’t be stupid
Demarcus didn’t even peak higher than KAT. Please stop.
Okay now this is stupidity 😂
When comparing two players and one has finished top 5 in MVP voting 4 years in a row, and the other player has never received a single MVP vote the player with the more MVP votes (i.e Dwight) is better
In terms of game I prefer to watch Cousins. A big man with his ball handle? He’s arguably the best ball handler ever at his size. So to me, that peak of having that guard like skillset, is better than Dwight’s career.
Sure Dwight had more success and a legendary defensive career but he crapped out hella fast and couldn’t even focus on winning when he had Kobe. So I suppose I’m being bias due to his Lakers failed stint. Still I’ll admit yea Dwight had a better career, but in a way Boogie is/was always better in my eyes.