Anytime a star’s name is floated in trade discussions, people always act like a team has to gut their roster and throw away all their future picks just to even entertain the idea of a trade.
KD was traded for Mikal, Cam, four picks, and a pick swap.
AD was traded for BI, Zo, Hart, and three picks.
Jimmy was traded for LaVine, Dunn, and a pick. He was also traded for RoCo, Dario Šarić and Jerryd Bayless.
Harden was traded for Simmons, Curry, Drummond, and two picks.
Dame was traded for Jrue, Grayson Allen, two picks, and a pick swap.
PG was traded for Oladipo and Sabonis — before they were stars.
Kawhi was traded for DeMar, Poeltl, and a pick.
Kyrie was traded for DFS, Dinwiddie, and a pick.
Mitchell was traded for Sexton, Ochai Ogbaji, Markkanen — before he broke out — and three picks as well as two swaps.
CP3 got traded for PatBev, LouWill, five bums, and a pick. Also, CP3 — even after his resurgence in OKC — was traded for Oubre, Rubio, and a pick.
Like, the biggest deal I just listed was the KD trade and that’s because he’s Kevin Durant. Of course, there are gargantuan deals like Harden to the Nets and PG to the Clippers…but more often than not, all it takes is a disgruntled star, 2 or 3 solid players, and about as many picks to get a deal done.
The Gobert deal really did do irreversible damage to the way star trades are perceived.
This whole post is in reference to the people who act like a trade package of Randle, Barrett, Robinson, and three picks for Embiid is somehow an awful deal as if that’s not par for the course when examining other trades involving stars.
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A lot needs to be considered Here are a few:
- How distressed the main asset is (will they cause problems if not traded)
- How long / much left on the contract
- Are the picks likely to be any good - not all pics are equal in terms of present or future value
- Competition among trade partners - can they be played off against each other
- Was the trade request (and surrounding circumstance) public
KD was traded for a ton what are you talking about
Mikal, the often-injured Cam Johnson, and four picks for a top-5 ish player is a ton? Every single team makes that deal with 0 regrets, 100 times out of 10.
How is a borderline All-Star and 4 firsts, 3 swaps not a ton? What more do you possibly want a team to give up and still try and be a contender with their acquired player
It was Mikal Bridges, four picks, and a swap for Kevin Wayne Durant after people were expecting a haul even bigger than the Gobert one is not a ton.
It was bigger than the Gobert haul because they got an All Star level player back instead of only picks and/or prospects.
AD was traded for BI, Zo, Hart, and three picks.
Last year of contract
Harden was traded for Simmons, Curry, Drummond, and two picks.
Old and 1.5 years left on contract (before tampering happened)
Kyrie was traded for DFS, Dinwiddie, and a pick.
Last year of contract
Kawhi was traded for DeMar, Poeltl, and a pick.
Last year of contract
Jimmy was traded for LaVine, Dunn, and a pick. He was also traded for RoCo, Dario Šarić and Jerryd Bayless.
2 years left on contract and a rental
Gee, I wonder what most of these trades have in common
KD was traded for Mikal, Cam, four picks, and a pick swap.
Those “four picks” were first-round picks all from one team- Phoenix. It was also a four-team deal. Context matters.
contract size, age and injury history matters as well. An aging star with 1-2 years remaining isnt getting the same haul as a guy in his prime with 3-4 years left on his deal.
Stars are traded for less than you think. Superstars are traded for as much as you normally think.