The entire NBA ecosystem seems to have unanimously decided that there’s no shot for Embiid to win consecutive MVPs, especially after this year’s playoffs where Embiid underperformed, while his most direct competitor established himself both as a champion, and as the top-dog in the league

But the one thing NBA has consistently proven, is that it’s very tricky to predict (notwithstanding the Warriors superserum run), and there very well maybe a future where we’re watching Joel Embiid hoist up that award once again come May.

So what do you guys think, realistically needs to happen with the Sixers, Embiid himself and the rest of his competition this regular season, for him to win a second MVP?

  • DrButtLump@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    I think if he wins 60 games, and has a better record than the bucks, Celtics, nuggets, that would be enough to win

  • Silent-Frame1452@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    Honestly think it’s less about his own play and more about his direct competition. He needs to be MVP caliber himself, as he has been the last couple of years, but also needs no one else to be very close, or they’ll get it over him.

  • CanyonCoyote@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    35 and 15 while the Sixers win 60+

    Anything less and it’s almost impossible. He’s gagged in the playoffs too much, injury or not, or he’s not getting past Giannis, Jokic or honestly AD, Tatum or Luka if any of them have better records. The league is all about narratives and Embiid has won and choked in the playoffs every year. Giannis and Jokic have titles and it’s more interesting to see them get into Bird and Magic land with 3 than Embiid winning a second Karl Malone MVP. Ditto Tatum giving its first MVP since Bird or Luka for his insane counting stats or AD for finally leading the Lakers with an assist from Bron.

  • fineseries81@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    He got the fatigue vote last year and then imploded in the playoffs. That means it’s going to be an uphill battle for him to win again, and from a narrative perspective, which is a major factor in MVP voting, he is behind pretty much every other major contender for the award to start the season.

    That said, 30-12-5 is a realistic stat line for Joel. If he can do something like that, and the Sixers go for 60+ wins, I think he has a realistic shot.

    If the stats aren’t there, or if the Sixers aren’t at the very top of the league, I’d say he has no chance.

  • 2020IsANightmare@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    Voter fatigue is a thing. No matter what anyone says.

    Giannis won’t win another one since the Bucks got Dame. Joker could, but there’s the voter fatigue with him too. And his narrative switched as well. Murray, Porter, Gordon, etc., are all “better than anyone gives them credit for.” OK. That impacts Jokic’s MVP chances.

    If Luka can get the Mavs to something like 52 wins dealing with World B. Flat and that shit roster, he might get MVP. Tatum will probably win one at some point.

    But, overall, I think Embiid does have a legit shot. Winning two is usually the cutoff unless we’re talking the best of the best ever.

  • SirThixcksAlot@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    Be better than last year while having Philly as a top 2 seed. I think there’s a good chance he peaked in the regular season last year 33 Ppg on 65% TS is crazy. He also always finishes behind Jokic in advanced metrics and games played. He’ll probably have the mvp narrative go against him this season also. He would need to have an all time regular season and I don’t think that’s realistic.