The Reddit Protest Is Finally Over. Reddit Won.::Reddit corporate claims victory over its disgruntled mods as r/aww, r/pics, and r/videos abandon the “John Oliver rule.”
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Reddit won? Good for them. I’m still not going back.
Reddit won at building its own viable competitors like Kbin, Lemmy, and Squabbles and all the users of those platforms also won big from Reddit’s hubris. The one thing I know for sure is that they have grown Lemmy by 7000%, and that’s nothing to sneeze at.
Time will tell what happens to Reddit.
Reddit won against its own users, the very people it relies on to stay relevant. In doing so, it showed a large number of users they don’t need reddit.
As the Lemmy apps get better, more and more people will check out the ad-free reddit. We can get their content without needing their platform, which is huge.
Reddit won the battle, but will it win the war?
I have never seen so many fight videos and politics on the front page. Reddit has completely lost its sense of humor and is basically a Facebook feed.
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They still have that power on Lemmy don’t they?
They do, but the difference is I can’t go to another reddit instance when they pull shit. It’s not flawless, but it certainly changes the power dynamics.
I’m not 100% sure on this, but unless there’s an actual system for it, IP bans are also infeasible on Lemmy, right? Since only your home instance has your IP, you can just switch to a different instance, even if the admins try to ban your IP.
And they don’t have ownership over a single community name as well. You can start a community with the same name on a different server
Can’t community moderators ban users too?
I think the idea here is that if mods are bad on, say, memes@lemmy.ml, everyone can just leave and make memes@sh.itjust.works or wherever. There should be more competition here, at least in theory. Time will tell how well it actually works.
You sub to a subreddit and gen banned on others that had nothing to do with it. Try talking anou how bad the vaccines are… Get banned. It does not matter if you are right or not, cant even have the conversation
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“Missinformation” lol everything on the vaccine has been missinformation until is not… “Virus came from a lab in china” “once you are vaccinated you wont get covid (depends on when you say it if its " missinformation” or not)" etc…
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Oh, please don’t worry about that, Lemmy’s API will make it easier than Reddit’s to automatically ban plague rats
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I’m saying I want to ban plague rats
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They didn’t win, they just didn’t fail as badly some had hoped. What was accomplished was spreading out a fair portion of their user base. Maybe not a huge percentage of it, but enough that they don’t have the same level of monopoly. People are more aware of other options (and Reddit’s flaws), and more will depart in time.
Well put. I think there was permanent damage done to user’s trust, but don’t see many of the smaller subreddit communities migrating away yet.
I worry that Lemmy is even more an echo chamber with a handful of default communities, I hope it grows to the point where I don’t feel obligated to join the popular communities so there is actual content to scroll through.
They might have won but now that Rif doesn’t work anymore I’m testing Lemmy. I’ve noticed that reddit content is less updated throughough the day so I suppose that some active posters have left.
I bet the “Reddit won” statement is a bit premature. Yes in a sense it pushed forward what they wanted to do kicking out third-party apps and moderators who didn’t toe the line. In the end, they kept the traffic but it must be mostly the silent majority of lurkers. I bet a significant chunk of the minority providing content and discussion went away or at least is trying out alternatives and finding a new home in the likes of Lemmy.
Time will tell if Reddit stagnates/declines content-wise.
I’m using Sync for Lemmy (with a lemmy.world account) it’s like Sync for Reddit, same!
The last major holdouts in the protest against Reddit’s API pricing relented,
Some small subreddits are still protesting and planning on doing so indefinitely. Others have migrated to Lemmy/Raddle/Squabbles/Etc
I dont know what you say, I transitioned to Lemmy 100% and deleted my acc at reddit.
The only super annoying thing is that they get to keep the cake whole and the dog full (my comments by deleting my name and my acc deleted). Which I despite them for that even more now and just make me avoid the platform even more and dis-advertise it.
I would be fully happy if I had my account, changed my comments first to “fuck /u/spez” and then had deleted my account, but I only knew so much. I was naive enough to think they would delete my comments too, since they’re My Intellectual Property. Right? They came from my own mind, I took the time to write them, and I deleted them! But no! We will keep them, just delete your name.
And when you google my reddit username, you still get from the google’s cache directed to threads with my deleted comments. Fuck you spez. Fuck you.
Time will tell if reddit won. It’s not a short-term fight. I deleted my discord a Chinese Tencent’s vessel and a product that makes no money but burns money for the sake of gathering data. My Instagram, my Meta account thus my FB too, my WhatsApp, every app that was there just to gather my data or exploit me now or in the future.
I do everything to keep off being fingerprinted. I use platforms that use more and more end-to-end encryption like Matrix. Or at worst Telegram which is not end to end but the best of the worst since my relatives still use it.
Just because you don’t see it yet, doesn’t mean that a movement against anti-consumer platforms like reddit don’t exist. I inform my mom about it, I inform my relatives and friends about it. I move friends and friends move me to safer for the future to use platforms and de-centralized.
A battle may be short, but the war is long.
I removed all of my comments first, so they dont have anything. Used app to do this, took few minutes to remove thousands
Reportedly, they were restoring the comments of some deleted accounts for which they detected this.
Well if I find it I will report them to gdpr
If you still have access to your account there’s a bot service that will edit all of your comments to whatever message you’d like (eg. “Fuck spez” or w.e) and then when you delete them that’s what it’ll display.
I don’t unfortunately, I would even have done it by hand despite that I’m a developer and could have made a bot myself. Point is, if I knew about it I would be so furious that I would have no problem doing it by hand. Fuck spez.
Discord isn’t owned or majority controlled by tencent at all. That’s antivax level paranoia.
Tencent owns a majority of the shares. If you want to dispute me, at least throw a source … it’s a well known fact in the business community.
Crunchbase - Discord Principal investors
Crunchbase - Discord Series B Lead investors (Tencent, Benchmark, 9+ Program)
You just claimed that out of your ass again. There isn’t a single source that says tencent has a majority stake from their investment with Discord Inc.
Not even the links you provided state what you are claiming.
Tencent owns a majority stake in GGG.
Tencent has only funded Discord for $158 million. Less than 1/3 of the total funding($500 million) it has received and well below the $15 billion the company is valued at.
Either you don’t know how investments and shares work, you’re bad at math or both.
Is most likely that tencent has a 10-15% stake in Discord.
Depending on when that funding came in and how the stocks got priced they could be majority shareholders, the founders of the company I work for own over 50% together although they’ve gotten way more funding from external investors than they’ve put in themselves
Tencent has only funded 158 million […] that’s only 1/3 of the shares
and that’s not a majority of the shares? Are you stupid or you’re pretending to be?
Because so far you’ve only insulted me but now it’s time for me to insult you. You firstly clearly don’t know how to make a discussion work without insulting your counterparty, and secondly don’t know in english the difference between “THE majority” and “A majority”.
You talk like a classic 9gagger who only knows how to talk with insults and misinformation and with pure arrogance. 1/3 is a majority of the shares. That’s how it works in business. 1/3 is a big number to take big decisions and make vetos and be on the table.
1/3 is not the majority. Majority of share has to be 50% and more. Usually majority is kept by the company and other shares are promised.
Investing doesn’t gauentee stakeholdership. You are making nothing but conspitorial assumptions.
Again, you have little grasp on economics, buisness, math and stakeholders.
I didn’t say THE majority. You continue to change my words. I said A majority. There can be multiple majorities in a community in relation to something else. And in the business world when you say 1/3 of shares is owned by X entity, that IS a majority. Because the rest is most likely 1 million other people/entities with no power, some are VC, some are CEO, some are other seeders.
I understand you may not know much about the business world. It’s not bad not knowing things. And stop insulting people for not knowing something. Shaming people for lack of knowledge is just such a loser mentality. It’s like sucking your own cock.
And at last you answered without direct insults, but you still gave me a “you have a little grasp of business economics and maths” which is ironical.
1/3 is a big portion to own from a company. I’m in the business world, I’m also been a trader for years now, we also do discussions on our company’s surge meetings about IPOs and I have friends who’ve been bank CEOs or still are. Believe me. 1/3 is a big portion to own from a company. You own
1/3 of the decisions in a sense that the company does. You have huge voting power and rights. Stop pretending to be blind for the sake of proving yourself right.
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Got one boys.
Really‽ I just checked and many of the small subreddits I used to follow became much less interesting/active if not dead.
Meanwhile, some of the bigger subs became a repost dumping ground of years old posts/images/videos/memes by fairly new accounts (i’m guessing those are bots karma farming).
The fediverse is the much better way IMHO.
In any case, Facebook, Twitter, Reddit have become too toxic to use I will keep away (though, I never had a Facebook nor a Twitter account)
Interesting. The small subreddits I follow either moved or are just as active. Most are just as active.
I’d like to spend more time here, but Lemmy is still not attracting enough people to support a lot of the small subreddits I follow.
Just If you consider the growth of 7000% of a competitor in the era when many players fight for the attention of the users a victory. Time will tell
There’s two problems…
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There is no easy to use singular Reddit replacement. (The fediverse is not easy to use to normal people.)
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Reddit is such a large social media site now that all the nerds getting angry and leaving doesn’t matter. 10 years ago this change would have killed Reddit, but now that normal people like my mom are on Reddit they don’t give a shit about using the official Reddit app, in fact they were probably already using it.
But your mom was probably not part of the 1% of Reddit posting things people cared about. A lot of those people left and, I’m told (I haven’t been back to look), the change is noticeable.
Here are the subs I used to go to…
- Askgaybros - Doesn’t exist on the fediverse
- Gaybros - exists but barely gets one post per day
- Politics - I’m banned because of my username, but plenty of subscribers. Interestingly I can’t figure out how to contact a moderator to get unbanned. The information page doesn’t list who the moderators are. I had a similarly “offensive” name on Reddit for a decade and never got banned from r/politics
- askreddit - plenty of subscribers on Lemmy
- Android - plenty of subscribers on Lemmy
- Linux - plenty of subscribers on Lemmy
- Economics - maybe a post or two a day
When I go back to Reddit, on desktop, all of those are operating as they normally do, with no perceptible change on the amount of posts.
Plot twist: you’re just a British smoker.
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it feels like a biased, paid and made up news for spez’s money to try and revive this hole of a website. most of r/all posts are repost bots, as well as comments in them.
I can’t use a mobile browser to view most content on Reddit anymore due to one of the changes to the site. I get a bunch of prompts to log in or verify my age or something that can only be removed by switching my browser to desktop mode.
This basically ensures that I won’t ever use Reddit because I do most of my doom scrolling on mobile when I’m bored.
I think today I’ll investigate one of the means of automatically changing all of my comments to fuck spez and then delete my account.
That’s not true. It may be true in r/technology, but reddit hasn’t won. It’s just that those still on Reddit didn’t make it.
We showed that we care, and we showed that we can dump them. Reddit is currently dying. It may be a slow process, but I don’t think the enshittification of reddit will stop.
Yep, and while Lemmy was rough around the edges when people started looking for alternatives, now there’s a glut of great clients and active communities. Reddit only needs one more screw up before the remaining users find a compelling alternative.
And the screwup will come. Either in another big blow or gradually.
I think “one more screw up” is a little optimistic tbh
They won, but hopefully the hit they took gives them pause. Lemmy won too, it’s become a nice little community and I’m happy to be here.
Reddit didn’t win over me. I edited all my comments to “fuck u/spez”, got suspended from a couple subreddits, and then never logged back in to my account. Been using Lemmy ever since.
