Discussion question: what are the good options if a country wants to control immigration?
It’s almost impossible to return a lot of the migrants, as they leave identification on porpoise. Incarcerate permanently is inhumane, but it’s also inhumane to just leave them in the homeless or send them to a different, unrelated country.
On the other hand, housing them and/or giving them money would seem as a “reward”.
I know the feeling on Lemmy is mostly “open borders”, I’m more interested on best approach aside from that.
I suppose it would (have been) a good start to not cause the refugee wave by not fucking up the middle east. but now that’s done, and can’t be undone.
what could be undone i guess would be to be reluctant to give out citizenship. Without citizenship, it’s a lot less attractive to stay in a country long-term, because citizenship essentially grants right to residence and social safety net, while a temporary residence permit does not.
On the other hand, housing them and/or giving them money would seem as a “reward”.
You’re framing the issue from a peculiar angle: Your question appears to be “how can we hurt refugees in the most humane way?”. What’s the end goal of that? Racial purity? A socially stagnant, shrinking society?
Imo the question should be: “how can we build a functioning society, especially knowing that people will continue to flee?”.
If you waste resources on hunting down and hurting the 95+% of people that don’t make any trouble, you’re almost by definition missing the people you do want to focus on, who will hurt society overall.
Discussion question: what are the good options if a country wants to control immigration? It’s almost impossible to return a lot of the migrants, as they leave identification on porpoise. Incarcerate permanently is inhumane, but it’s also inhumane to just leave them in the homeless or send them to a different, unrelated country.
On the other hand, housing them and/or giving them money would seem as a “reward”.
I know the feeling on Lemmy is mostly “open borders”, I’m more interested on best approach aside from that.
allow them to work so ease the financial burden. Integrate them instead of trying to get rid of them.
I suppose it would (have been) a good start to not cause the refugee wave by not fucking up the middle east. but now that’s done, and can’t be undone.
what could be undone i guess would be to be reluctant to give out citizenship. Without citizenship, it’s a lot less attractive to stay in a country long-term, because citizenship essentially grants right to residence and social safety net, while a temporary residence permit does not.
You’re framing the issue from a peculiar angle: Your question appears to be “how can we hurt refugees in the most humane way?”. What’s the end goal of that? Racial purity? A socially stagnant, shrinking society?
Imo the question should be: “how can we build a functioning society, especially knowing that people will continue to flee?”.
If you waste resources on hunting down and hurting the 95+% of people that don’t make any trouble, you’re almost by definition missing the people you do want to focus on, who will hurt society overall.
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