The article title is a bit of a misnomer because apparently they only surveyed western Europeans rather than people across Europe. But still it’s interesting.

These survey results appear in the article:

A graph showing the percentages of people in seven European countries who support retaliatory tariffs against the USA. 79% of people in Denmark either support or fully support such tariffs. The other countries listed are Sweden, Spain, France, the UK, Germany, and Italy. Italy has the lowest level of combined support and strong support, at 56%. More details can be seen at the article that this post links to.

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    Sure, but acting like that means that you basically still believe in Transatlanticism, and hope for US Republicans to come to their senses. Rather than recognizing that the massive dependence on the US in terms of IT and military has to be dissolved, as the US admin is currently looking for new peers and as the US likely won’t be particularly stable or democratic over the next 10 years. In addition, the dependence on MS, Apple, Meta, etc. was a drain on resources even in the “good” days prior to Nov 2024.

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      I don’t think I agree with that. Decoupling from American military and tech products can happen with or without tariffs, but doing so is primarily for the security of Europe. The tariffs are done to damage the credibility of the politicians responsible for them. They’re attempting to achieve separate goals. Regardless of whether Europe can trust America — and I agree with you that Europe can’t — if Europe has the ability to turn American public opinion against policies that harm Europe, doing so is beneficial to Europe. Better a large power that can’t be trusted than one that is actively hostile.

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        Yeah, that’s a reasonable take. Still, with Silicon Valley having an outsized influence on the new US admin, I think I wouldn’t mind them hurting a little too. And I find the priorities may be mixed up too. Without essentially a miracle happening, Trump will continue to be there for a while and he will continue to do damage. At least tariffs are introduced easily though, and I don’t think anyone will give a shit whether they get drunk on Jack Daniel’s or some European spirit.

        (The prospective new German coalition is even looking to expand a Bavarian pilot of Palantir nationwide – despite the fact that Palantir founder Peter Thiel is the man behind JD Vance. That’s going to be a massive blow to national security.)

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          Not just that, but Peter Thiel has German citizenship and speaks fluent German although with an accent. He is pretty much the most likely of the PayPal Mafia to do a lot of damage in Germany.

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      Any dependence on Micro$quash or Meta was always idiocy to begin with.

      Apple and AWS, less so but still understandable.

      Google is right out.

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      I get what you’re feeling, but I hope EU doesn’t respond from their emotions but with rational thinking. In the end the well being of EU citizens should come first. Independence is good, but a hard turn can have radical consequences also financially. Taking a small economic hit is imho much more preferable than a long recession. We as individuals might be able to carry the consequences of our changing behaviour but I think it’s better if the governments of Europe make careful decisions taking in account what pro’s and cons there are to their measurements.