• CMonster@discuss.online
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    19 hours ago

    I dont think the lines are the same anymore. Social media and 24/7 news has given people in plenty of northern regions the same viewpoints. A civil war would not be north vs. south. it would be neighbor vs neighbor

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      18 hours ago

      I always hear this.

      I am brown and grew up in the Midwest.

      Then my family moved to the south.

      This is like comparing Canadians who care about hockey with the Khmer Rouge exterminating much of their population.

      The south is just infinitely worse in literally every way.

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        19 hours ago

        there are a lot of nice people in the south. there are a lot of brown people in the south. you think everyone needs to suffer brutality for what the worst do?

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            16 hours ago

            we can attack and punish each other as the few would like or work together. that requires us to acknowledge common humanity and rally together for our shared well-being.

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              13 hours ago

              You’re asking us to nourish monsters who have only ever shown brutal violent hate.

              Go find a wild tiger and try to win them over with kindness and nurturing, see how well that works.

              I’m sure a lot of people thought they could win the nazis over with kindness. Sure a lot of slaves hoped letting the rapes happen would somehow make them stop.

              Some people just have darkness in their hearts, and society must be protected from them for everyone’s sake.

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          18 hours ago

          In the Midwest there are bad people too.

          The difference?

          In the Midwest when a racist is being a racist, people say shit, they stand up to them!

          In the south the bystanders just laugh, at worst they laugh nervously.

          Which is why it’s a vile and corrupt society.

          Police yourself, or don’t be surprised to be judged as evil.

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              5 hours ago

              I agree.

              But that’s vastly better.

              The deep, DEEP seated racial hatred of the south is a terrifying thing and is something that has lasted literal centuries, they switched parties over that.

              The Midwest at least has some hope.

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            16 hours ago

            there are bad and good people everywhere. i do not endorse painting millions as deserving suffering; there’s plenty of that already.

            ordinary americans can find their way out of this mess together or tear each other apart. which do you imagine suits those in power?

            you are no longer here. stop trying to sow further hatred and division. i don’t want my children, my friends, my colleagues, my clients to suffer because they live on the wrong side of an arbitrary line.

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              14 hours ago

              BTW… The fact that you make it clear you don’t want to be caught up in this makes one thing ckear:

              You know they are evil and violent, and you are terrified to face them because of this.

              This is what neutral Germans must have felt as they watched jews get rounded up in camps.

              You don’t understand that dealing with the monsters yourself is actually the better choice for everyone.

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              14 hours ago

              I’m sure there were a lot of poor Germans who didn’t deserve what they got.

              But it doesn’t matter, that’s how it goes, if you can’t stop your neighbors from doing evil you suffer for that evil.

              A table with 4 people where one is a nazi is a table with 4 nazis.

              Your people are still trying to hurt everyone, and you’re not stopping them.

              I fully expect to put a lot of effort to hurt your people in the near future in self-defense, because their history of monstrous evil and cruelty speaks for itself.

              I’m no longer there because I had to escape the south, and I thank God every day that I could.

              Then the filth chased me to the coasts and I had to escape to Europe.

              I can’t escape earth. This far, no farther.

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                14 hours ago

                why didn’t you stop your neighbors from evil when you lived here?

                are each of your countrymen, wherever you are now, without fault?

                you justify your own hatred and desire to harm, and so you will perpetuate the harm you experienced.

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                  14 hours ago

                  I’m not white.

                  They tried to kill me a few times, I know how evil and violent they are.

                  Oh god yes, my current country is amazing, it’s basically like the Midwest but better, because these are the people who populated the Midwest. They saved thousands of jews during the holocaust, they’re famous for it, and still humble.

                  I believe the golden rule needs to be reinterpreted as ‘do unto others as they do unto you’. And by those rules the south deserve repayment for all their horrific crimes.